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Feb 25, 2009 17:40 |  #1

Anyone have/seen this? I was thinking about picking up a copy, but I figured I would ask if anyone had any feedback on them. Thanks.


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Feb 25, 2009 17:55 |  #2

I have it and its pretty informative. The on location examples are the best though. You should check it out. The Strobist DVD's and the Nikon Creative Guide to Lighting are two of my favorites.


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Feb 25, 2009 18:19 |  #3

I was totally underwhelmed by the DVD. David's Strobist site is excellent but IMO the DVD set was a sleeper, poorly presented, and agonizing to watch. Aside from poor presentation the images that David makes in the DVD are pretty bad.

If you are looking to learn the material I can highly recommend "One Light Workshop" by Zack Arias. These DVDs are shorter in duration but provide solid information presented logically and in a way to actually teach. The images Zack creates are beautiful and the video and explanations give the viewer the knowledge to create these types of images themselves.
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Feb 25, 2009 18:51 as a reply to  @ RichNY's post |  #4

It's 8 DVD's of content that could have been done in 3 or 4 at the most. I agree with Rich. Whether you're a strobist or not I was not impressed and actually fell asleep a few times while watching.


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Feb 25, 2009 18:53 |  #5

Thanks for the replies guys. I had actually seen the OneLight trailer a while ago when it was still in production, and totally forgot about it. I think I will go in that direction. Thanks again.


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Feb 25, 2009 18:55 |  #6

This is weird I just looked at the first part of the series , I will up date as I go along .

First DVD was very basic .


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Feb 25, 2009 18:57 |  #7

I like Zack Arias' better.


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Feb 25, 2009 19:29 as a reply to  @ DarthVader's post |  #8

i learned a lot from Zack's dvd


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Feb 25, 2009 20:55 as a reply to  @ jeromego's post |  #9

I was pretty disappointed with the Strobist DVD. I love the Strobist website and for someone getting into the first time I thought the Strobist dvd would be a perfect fit.

However when I put in the dvd I felt like I arrived in a middle of a seminar. It seemed like David was just shooting from the hip.

The dvd is more like a bunch of tips put together and not a tutorial.

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Feb 25, 2009 21:13 |  #10

I agree with everyone else. It was terrible and I am a big Strobist fan. Highly disappointing investment.


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Feb 25, 2009 21:30 |  #11

Man am I glad I asked!


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Feb 25, 2009 23:15 as a reply to  @ Thomas Hopkins's post |  #12

Personally, I found the DVDs informative. I got the Strobist DVDs first and watch all 9 of them and then I bought the OneLight DVDs. And to tell you the truth I had a little buyers remorse for the OneLight DVDs after watching them.

The OneLight DVDs are excellent and have a much higher production quality than the Strobist. The Strobist DVD set is litterally just one of David Hobby's seminars/lectures that he gives. I does do a run through of gear and the last three DVDs of the set shows on location shooting, which I found the most informative, at least for me.

The reason I had some buyers remorse over buying the OneLight DVDs is because I never had an "AH HA!" moment. I've been reading the Strobist site for several years and of course POTN, so I understood a lot going into both DVDs. And since I did watch the Strobist DVDs first there was nothing really new for me to learn on Zack's DVDs. That's not to say I didn't learn anything at all, but given the hype and all the great reviews I was really expecting a life altering experience.

That said, the OneLight DVDs are very well put together and Zack does an excellent job of laying out the fundamentals in a very easy to understand and follow along method. It is much more coherent, logical, and methodical than the Strobist DVDs. And the axiom of, you get what you paid for, sort of applies to the DVDs as well.

The biggest difference I found between David Hobby's DVDs and Zack Arias' OneLight DVDs (besides presentation) is that David only uses speedlights, umbrellas, and cheap stands. Zack uses the Apollo soft boxes, Sunpak 120j, AB1600, and speedlights.

I appreciate David's approach a little more since the equipment he uses is what I have on hand. Though, I would like to get an AB1600 (or maybe just a AB800), it is unlikely that I will be getting an Apollo anytime soon, and the 120j is no longer made. I realize it's the method that Zack shows more than the gear that is truly useful, but for me I was able to relate to David and immediately try what he shows in his DVDs.


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Feb 26, 2009 04:08 |  #13

I can highly recommend Zack Arias' Onelightworkshop dvd!




  
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Feb 26, 2009 05:22 as a reply to  @ amoergosum's post |  #14

I watched the onelight DVD first and then the Strobist DVDs(all of them).

Without Zacks DVD I never would have had the aha moment of realizing the difference of how aperture controls flash and shutter speed controls ambient. Although he does repeat it many times. To me this very point alone was worth the bucks. I didnt care for the stickers, DVD or T-shirt but hey, its all part of the package so what can you do?

The Strobist DVD does have alot of info. I'll say it again ALOT of info, which unfortunately is just presented badly. I don't especially want to hear about nimh batteries for more than whats necessary but he does go on and on about them for a while. He must be very passionate. Which brings me to the point of whay I enjoy the Strobist DVD as well. DH is very passionate about lighting.

And it is this very point (disregarding the times I fell asleep and feeling overwhelmed by the information), that made me feel it was worth it.

Both the OneLight DVD and the Strobist DVD eminate the authors passion for photography. And from that point of view, both were a good investment because they make me wanna go out, light, shoot and learn more. :D


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Feb 26, 2009 05:36 as a reply to  @ Canonymous's post |  #15

I would say that the difference between the Strobist DVDs and the Onelightworkshop DVDs is that Zack gives you more than a lighting workshop. It's hard to put in words but Zack only gets technical to a certain level. He never overwhelms you with too much information because he knows how important it is to combine technique with creativity. Zack really teaches you how to use both sides of your brain.




  
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