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Aug 31, 2009 13:03 |  #2296

Tareq wrote in post #8555597 (external link)
Did you shoot RAW?
Sharpness is not a big issue, you can add sharpness by pp, i have many many shots by almost all my lenses soft RAW even at f8 or f11, when i open by DPP i see the sharpness is at 0 or 3, so then i add sharpness by DPP or later on Photoshop and it is rock!

I shot Jpeg. Yes, I did not add any sharpness on PP, but was expecting better results from my 50mm. Maybe I need to switch to manual focus at 1.8.

What lens do you guys prefer for full-length photographs (outdoors)




  
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Aug 31, 2009 13:10 |  #2297

Vineet666 wrote in post #8555680 (external link)
I shot Jpeg. Yes, I did not add any sharpness on PP, but was expecting better results from my 50mm. Maybe I need to switch to manual focus at 1.8.

What lens do you guys prefer for full-length photographs (outdoors)

A couple thoughts. Start shooting raw, it gives you a lot more fine control of your images. Sure it gives you lattitude for missing exposure, but you want to get the exposure right regardless, but it also allows for fine adjustment of sharpness, white balance, color vibrance, and contrast.

If you shot these at 1.8 with the 50mm I would ask why? 1.8 on the 50 is great in low light, and for super shallow depth of field. But none of the shots you posted really have/need that. Give yourself some depth of field lattitude and shoot with the lens stopped down a little unless you have some creative reason to do it. You'll get nice bokeh at 2.8 anyway.

The crop on your second shot bothers me, too much dead space on the right and her body lines all lead your eyes to the left.




  
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Aug 31, 2009 13:43 |  #2298

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A couple thoughts. Start shooting raw, it gives you a lot more fine control of your images. Sure if gives you lattitude for missing exposure, but you want to get the exposure right regardless, but it also allows for fine adjustment of sharpness, white balance, color vibrance, and contrast.

If you shot these at 1.8 with the 50mm I would ask why? 1.8 on the 50 is great in low light, and for super shallow depth of field. But non of the shots you posted really have/need that. Give yourself some depth of field lattitude and shoot with the lens stopped down a little unless you have some creative reason to do it. You'll get nice bokeh at 2.8 anyway.

The crop on your second shot bothers me, too much dead space on the right and her body lines all lead your eyes to the left.

Well said, exactly my thoughts!


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Aug 31, 2009 17:01 |  #2299

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those are great !..

that soft box covers the full body.. 15 x 15 inch right?

all with the 430..?

you found some good settings..

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Aug 31, 2009 21:25 |  #2300

gonzogolf wrote in post #8555715 (external link)
A couple thoughts. Start shooting raw, it gives you a lot more fine control of your images. Sure it gives you lattitude for missing exposure, but you want to get the exposure right regardless, but it also allows for fine adjustment of sharpness, white balance, color vibrance, and contrast.

If you shot these at 1.8 with the 50mm I would ask why? 1.8 on the 50 is great in low light, and for super shallow depth of field. But none of the shots you posted really have/need that. Give yourself some depth of field lattitude and shoot with the lens stopped down a little unless you have some creative reason to do it. You'll get nice bokeh at 2.8 anyway.

The crop on your second shot bothers me, too much dead space on the right and her body lines all lead your eyes to the left.

Thanks for the critique. I like RAW, but don't like its bulkiness. I will most likely shoot RAW when I'm doing an assignment, but can't you get similar adjustments with JPEG in Lightroom? I can control the exposure and contrast (though not extremely), but to a respectable degree in Lightroom with Jpeg.

As for the 1.8, I was surprised myself but 2.8 was not giving me a good bokeh! I've shot with this lens at 2.8 in the past, which works fine, but yesterday is just gave too much detail in the background. Maybe there is something wrong with the lens or I didn't do something right. I'll have to test that again.

Any more criticism and comments would be appreciated.

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Aug 31, 2009 21:38 |  #2301

Vineet666 wrote in post #8558322 (external link)
Thanks for the critique. I like RAW, but don't like its bulkiness. I will most likely shoot RAW when I'm doing an assignment, but can't you get similar adjustments with JPEG in Lightroom? I can control the exposure and contrast (though not extremely), but to a respectable degree in Lightroom with Jpeg.

As for the 1.8, I was surprised myself but 2.8 was not giving me a good bokeh! I've shot with this lens at 2.8 in the past, which works fine, but yesterday is just gave too much detail in the background. Maybe there is something wrong with the lens or I didn't do something right. I'll have to test that again.

Any more criticism and comments would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Fixing a jpeg in lightroom is not the same as converting a raw file. When you take a jpeg with your camera, your camera interprets your settings and applies a certain amount of sharpness, color bias, contrast, white balance etc. and those things are fixed. the rest of the information from the sensor is discarded. You can tweak a jpeg later but any changes you make futher degrade the quality. when you shoot raw all the data from the sensor is dumped to the file, if you want to change the white balance, contrast, sharpness and color vibrancy you can make those adjustments and convert to jpeg. if you decide later to reinterpret the shot, all that data is still there in the raw file. Basically you get a second, or third etc.. shot at decision making.

As for the bokeh on the 1.8, first worry about the image quality of that which should be in focus. Trying to achieve an area of blurred background is sort of silly if your depth of field isn't sufficient to keep your subject in sharp focus. Also, to get "bokeh" (I'm growing to hate that term) you need to create shots that make use of it. in two of the shots you posted the background areas that are too close and too laden with detail to get nice bokeh anyway.




  
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Aug 31, 2009 22:45 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #2302

2 speedlite on monopod held up high by assistant camera left both at full-pwr bare. i could probably crop this a big tigher to minimize the shadow on the right side and get rid of that umbrella that i forgot about lol

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Aug 31, 2009 22:52 |  #2303

^^^ super love it... so epic.. i like the random loooking around.. sweet !

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Aug 31, 2009 23:41 |  #2304

ekie wrote in post #8558808 (external link)
2 speedlite on monopod held up high by assistant camera left both at full-pwr bare. i could probably crop this a big tigher to minimize the shadow on the right side and get rid of that umbrella that i forgot about lol

I like that shot Ekie. Looks like a very cool bridal party!!


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Sep 01, 2009 00:21 as a reply to  @ tonyr0584's post |  #2305

^ nice shot of the bridal party.. but the girl in front looks as if shes about to burst out crying. or completely lost.


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Sep 01, 2009 05:40 |  #2306

Here's my first attempt at backlighting OCF

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Sep 01, 2009 14:54 as a reply to  @ t-shot's post |  #2307

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Sep 01, 2009 15:23 |  #2308

^ sweet fun shot!


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Sep 01, 2009 20:57 |  #2309

Handheld 430EX about 5 feet camera left gelled with a 1/4 CTO, ETTL +1/3 EV, commanded by a camera mounted 580EXII (flash disabled) as master.

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Sep 01, 2009 21:02 |  #2310

JCH, great shot. did you make it to the top??


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