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Jun 08, 2009 08:07 |  #16

we are going through Thompson safari's. 3 days in serengeti, 2 in ngorongoro, and 3 in tangerie. now i just have to decide between a 1.4x, 2x tube for a 70-200 f/2.8, or pick up a 100-400 for the trip.


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Jun 09, 2009 02:36 |  #17

cyruz wrote in post #8070214 (external link)
we are going through Thompson safari's. 3 days in serengeti, 2 in ngorongoro, and 3 in tangerie. now i just have to decide between a 1.4x, 2x tube for a 70-200 f/2.8, or pick up a 100-400 for the trip.

The 100-400mm lens is your only choise. Off road driving is strictly prohibbited in all Tanzanian national parks which means that a photographer there needs as much focal length as possible.
The 70-200mm zoom should be your back up lens for those (rare) moments when your subject will be very close to the 4X4 vehicle.
Most of the times (especially in Serengeti) animals stay far away from the road (mainly cheetahs which are very shy) so a 400mm lens is the minimum requirement.
Ngorongoro is a different story...it is a very small park (if you can change your itinerary to 1 day in Ngorongoro and 4 days in Serengeti it would be much better) which means that you can cover it all in one 6hr game drive and you won't be needing more. Animals there can't "hide" due to the complete lack of undergrowth, so in Ngorongoro you will have your chances for some close-ups, even with the 70-200mm zoom.

Have a nice trip
Teo

P.S. Your only chance to see a leopard in Serengeti is to ask your driver to go by the banks of Seronera river which lies in the heart of the park. This is a famous leopard territory, ask him to stay there a lot of time...be patient and if you are lucky....you are about to experience a never to be forgotten sight!


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Jun 11, 2009 10:31 |  #18

matman1975 wrote in post #8075998 (external link)
The 100-400mm lens is your only choise. Off road driving is strictly prohibbited in all Tanzanian national parks which means that a photographer there needs as much focal length as possible.
The 70-200mm zoom should be your back up lens for those (rare) moments when your subject will be very close to the 4X4 vehicle.
Most of the times (especially in Serengeti) animals stay far away from the road (mainly cheetahs which are very shy) so a 400mm lens is the minimum requirement.
Ngorongoro is a different story...it is a very small park (if you can change your itinerary to 1 day in Ngorongoro and 4 days in Serengeti it would be much better) which means that you can cover it all in one 6hr game drive and you won't be needing more. Animals there can't "hide" due to the complete lack of undergrowth, so in Ngorongoro you will have your chances for some close-ups, even with the 70-200mm zoom.

Have a nice trip
Teo

100% agree. We did 7 days:

1 - Tarangire
2 - Tarangire->Serengeti (Seronera)
3 - Serengeti (Seronera)
4 - Serengeti (Seronera 2/3 -> Lobo)
5 - Serengeti (Lobo 1/3) -> Ngorongo
6 - Ngorongoro
7 - Lake Manyara

Ngorongoro animals feel like zoo animals after the other areas - non-migrational, they are used to seeing the same activity day in and day out... Good opp for seeing the black rhino though.

P.S. Your only chance to see a leopard in Serengeti is to ask your driver to go by the banks of Seronera river which lies in the heart of the park. This is a famous leopard territory, ask him to stay there a lot of time...be patient and if you are lucky....you are about to experience a never to be forgotten sight!

We saw one leopard in Seronera that was hanging high up in a tree - REALLY FAR from the road - I even tried throwing on the 2x from the 70-200 combo onto my 100-400... just to get a decent pic..

Lobo - two young males together in the early morning!!!! Just 50 ft from the side of the road!

Cyruz... you are going to LOVE it!




  
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Jun 15, 2009 15:25 |  #19

well im stuck now debating on the 100-400L or the Sigma APO 120-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG OS HSM. anyone use here use it at all?


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Jun 15, 2009 17:35 |  #20

cyruz wrote in post #8114876 (external link)
well im stuck now debating on the 100-400L or the Sigma APO 120-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG OS HSM. anyone use here use it at all?

All I can tell you is I loved my 100-400L and that you can't go wrong with it. Get it before you go and practice... some people have a hard time with the "push-pull" idea.




  
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Jun 16, 2009 04:31 |  #21

cyruz wrote in post #8114876 (external link)
well im stuck now debating on the 100-400L or the Sigma APO 120-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG OS HSM. anyone use here use it at all?

You already have a 70-200mm zoom.....purchasing the 100-400mm will be a bad idea.
You can choose instead the 400mm f/5.6 L prime which is sharper than the 100-400mm and also has a faster AF system.
The 100-400mm zoom is an ideal safari lens ONLY for those who intend bringing in Africa one lens....you do not belong in that category.
Here is a link where you can see what a 400mm f/5.6 L prime can do in Africa;)
www.photo.net/photos/m​atman1975 (external link)

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Jun 16, 2009 09:53 |  #22

I'd say that's fine if you're bringing two bodies. If you only have one body, it's going to be tough to change lenses fast enough when the animal goes from 400 range to right next to you IHMO. I found a few times that I wished I had a 50-400 even ;)




  
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Jun 17, 2009 17:46 |  #23

was the 1-4L enough reach? i might grab a sigma 150-500 for the trip. teo those are some great shot, but i think since im only gonna bring one body with me, i want to stick with a zoom as much as possible, so i am not swapping lenses to much in the dust.


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Jun 20, 2009 02:11 |  #24

For one body I'd go 150-500mm OS. Whichever you buy get it well ahead of time and test. Any of the long zooms can be dodgy, tho' I have to say neither of my 100-400 L's came up to scratch and both my 150-500's did, but other people will have different experience. Depends on the copy you get. The Sigma has more length and better IS so pound for pound I feel it's a better buy. In Africa I recommend you mainly shoot AV at f8 as this gives a sharp/nicer image with good DOF, then adjust ISO to get the shutter speed you need. There is plenty of light but try to shoot when light is ideal rather than when sun is high in the sky. Shots will look washed out otherwise.

For a two body set up the 70-200mm and 400mm is a perfect combo.


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