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Mix 'n match EL Skyports and PWII's?

 
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Mar 03, 2009 14:35 |  #1

Just thinking about a migration path for my lighting over time. I currently have Dlite-4's, Speedlites, and PWII's. What I was thinking of doing over time is migrating from Dlite-4's to the Digital RX (600) series strobes. I noticed that B&H has a kit with 2 600RX lights and Skyports for them. So I envisioned using the 2 RX's as my main and fill lights, using the Skyports that would enable control over the light settings, and using Dlite-4's (with Pocket Wizards) for background and hair lights. First, I'm not even sure it makes sense to do this with the dramatically different flash duration times between these strobes, but I'm also wondering if the skyports and PWII's can be used together like this. Probably a stupid question, but that's my thing! Thanks.


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Mar 03, 2009 14:58 |  #2

Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

Unless you want to remotely adjust power, you only need one receiver. Any studio strobe will fire with its own slave sensor.


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Mar 03, 2009 15:20 as a reply to  @ Curtis N's post |  #3

Are you referring to the optical sensors to fire the other strobes? For whatever reason, I haven't had consistent results when relying on the optical sensors, with my Dlites anyway. I'm not trying to make it more complicated. Since I already have the PWII's, and this particular kit is a bargain because the 600RX units are cheaper than if purchased individually and it comes with Skyports, I was wondering about the possibility of using both together.


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Lighting: 580EX, Elinchrom 600 RX's, D-Lite 4's, ABR800, 74" Eli Octa, 100cm/70cm DOs, Photoflex Medium Octa and reflectors, PW's, Lastolite Hilite, Newton Di400CR bracket

  
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Mar 03, 2009 15:31 |  #4

I hear you I would try to keep it to one radio system not sure how to go about getting a skyport to trigger a PW I am about to order 2 of those RX600 kits and the skyport USB mostly cause I don't like having to run around the studio to make changes I like having everything at my finger tips plus I can store different lighting setups and then just pull them up and not have to set each light individually. Sure looks like a really cool system.


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Mar 03, 2009 15:52 |  #5

I don't think that's possible, I think they use different frequencies. I could be wrong, but my old ebay triggers don't get triggered by my skyports and when I had an old pocket wizard, I couldn't trigger that either. But I might have done something wrong, you never know!




  
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Mar 03, 2009 16:09 |  #6

Alextee wrote in post #7447713 (external link)
I don't think that's possible, I think they use different frequencies. I could be wrong, but my old ebay triggers don't get triggered by my skyports and when I had an old pocket wizard, I couldn't trigger that either. But I might have done something wrong, you never know!

It's absolutely fact that the PocketWizards and Skyports cannot communicate with each other. You might be able to hardwire a PW receiver to trigger a Skyport transmitter, but that's a VERY expensive system with no advantage at all over a standard PW or Skyport system (NO "and" involved).


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Mar 03, 2009 19:18 |  #7

sdipirro wrote in post #7447270 (external link)
Just thinking about a migration path for my lighting over time. I currently have Dlite-4's, Speedlites, and PWII's. What I was thinking of doing over time is migrating from Dlite-4's to the Digital RX (600) series strobes. I noticed that B&H has a kit with 2 600RX lights and Skyports for them. So I envisioned using the 2 RX's as my main and fill lights, using the Skyports that would enable control over the light settings, and using Dlite-4's (with Pocket Wizards) for background and hair lights. First, I'm not even sure it makes sense to do this with the dramatically different flash duration times between these strobes, but I'm also wondering if the skyports and PWII's can be used together like this. Probably a stupid question, but that's my thing! Thanks.

Do you have a Sekonic meter with the PW RF module installed? If so, it might be worthwhile to employ both RF systems simultaneously but personally, I would only make an effort to use both with the PW MultiMax units rather than the Plus II units or if you absolutely cannot get the D-Lite optical triggering to work consistently for you.

Just as an aside, I do use both the Skyport RX units and the PW MM units so I know that it can be done and very simply. But the MM units allows the use of zone triggering (the Plus II units do not) which is why I would even bother to continue using them. :)


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