ed. wrote in post #10735932
Yes but that speed you quoted is in a vacuum??
Yes but that speed you quoted is in a vacuum??
Sorry went to bed
That is at sea level
I am about 40 feet above that
sigmapi Cream of the Crop  11,204 posts Likes: 6 Joined Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles More info | Aug 17, 2010 10:40 | #1831 ed. wrote in post #10735932 Yes but that speed you quoted is in a vacuum?? Sorry went to bed Don't try to confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up.
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sigmapi Cream of the Crop 11,204 posts Likes: 6 Joined Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles More info | Aug 17, 2010 10:41 | #1832 Cathpah wrote in post #10736861 Sure, NOW you tell me. I just spent an afternoon taking a self-portrait, and it wouldve been SO much cooler with the strobella.  That said, I've a got big budget wedding in Key West to shoot (I know, I know...I'm not a wedding shooter). What do you think they'd say when I show up with that? Get back in your car and leave Don't try to confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up.
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ben_r_ -POTN's Three legged Support-  15,894 posts Likes: 13 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA More info | Aug 17, 2010 10:41 | #1833 Seanzky wrote in post #10737116 I think you're talking about the Speed, Rob. What about the Eco? Can the Eco fire by group/all as well? Or is it 4 channels only and fires all (not by group)? I was thinking of getting another transmitter for a light meter. Well right off the bat we can tell something is lesser about it since it only has two dip switches whereas other skyports have three:   This is from NormanCamera.com(same from Elinchrom.com) referencing the specs of the ECO: * SLR Camera Sync speeds: SPEED mode up to 1/250 s, STANDARD mode 1/160 - 1/200 s. * 4 frequency channels. * 40 Bit security encryption. * Up to 50 m range indoors for standard mode and up to 30 m in speed mode. * Up to 80 m range outdoors for standard mode and up to 40 m in speed mode. * Battery life up to 6 Months - over 30’000 flashes. * Test trigger button and feature button. * Integrated Hot-shoe (middle contact). * Two flash modes, standard and speed. * Standard mode full compatible with previous EL-Skyport versions. * Status LED for EL-Skyport mode and battery status. * New extra features; configure EL-Skyport with the new EL-Skyport PC / MAC software 3.0. * The SPEED function is available for Ranger Quadra AS, BXRi 250 / 500 and D-Lite it and all other units, when used with the EL-Skyport Universal Speed. All that versus the TX Speed (from Elinchrom.com): What's NEW... EL-Skyport SPEED - Added Values * LED status for EL-Skyport sync mode and battery status. * Improved housing, battery drawer and switches. * Improved integrated Hot-shoe with screw lock. * Improved SYNC-socket for direct connection. * NORMAL & SPEED Sync modes, please read below.. NEW... Two synchronisation modes, STANDARD and SPEED * The “Standard” mode is fully compatible with previous EL-Skyport versions. * The SPEED function is available for Ranger Quadra AS, BXRi 250 / 500 und D-Lite-it and all other units, when used with the Universal Speed. * Up to 60 m range indoors for STANDARD mode and up to 40 m in SPEED mode. * Up to 120 m range outdoors for STANDARD mode and up to 60 m in SPEED mode. * Up to 1/150s shutter speed for SLR cameras in NORMAL mode. * Up to 1/250s shutter speed for SLR cameras in SPEED mode. EL-Skyport SPEED Facts * +/- Buttons to change flash power settings of RX units and to switch Modelling lamp on/off, without using a computer. * Test button for manual flash trigger. * Interference free operation with 40 Bit security. * Switch to select 8 Frequency Channels --- for example between separate working areas. * Switch to select 4 Workgroups --- adjusting and synchronising individual units or groups * Battery life up to 6 Months - over 30’000 flashes * The “All” switch controls all units in Workgroup 1-4. * The moveable antenna optimises reception and working distance. * Compatible with BXRi 250 / 500 and Ranger Quadra AS & D-Lite-it with "onboard" ELS Transceiver. [Gear List | Flickr
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TMRDesign Cream of the Crop  23,883 posts Likes: 12 Joined Feb 2006 Location: Huntington Station, NY More info | Aug 17, 2010 10:59 | #1834 ben_r_ wrote in post #10737633 Well right off the bat we can tell something is lesser about it since it only has two dip switches whereas other skyports have three: This is from NormanCamera.com(same from Elinchrom.com) referencing the specs of the ECO: All that versus the TX Speed (from Elinchrom.com): SO then the ECO has no groups. It fill fire all groups? Robert
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Seanzky Goldmember  2,888 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: TX More info | Aug 17, 2010 11:05 | #1835 TMR Design wrote in post #10737778 SO then the ECO has no groups. It fill fire all groups? Looks like it. Oh well, it looks like I'll have to get the Speed and use my old transmitter to use on the light meter.
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DarthSparky Senior Member  510 posts Likes: 1 Joined Apr 2009 Location: Surrey, UK More info | Aug 17, 2010 11:47 | #1836 Lol - no Rob. This is crazy expensive as it is LOL...... Rich | 1DX | Gripped 5D2 | 17-40 4L | 24-105 4L IS | 70-200 2.8L IS II | 85 1.2L II | 100 2.8L Macro IS | 600EX-RT | Gear List | www.richbaileyphotography.com
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telles75 Goldmember  2,184 posts Joined Jan 2007 Location: Toronto More info | Aug 17, 2010 12:59 | #1837 I still don;t get it... What is the whole fuss about the new Speed Transmitter.. Says 250th using the Speed Setting... according to manual the old transmitter was good up to 1/1000th.. Am I missing something? On the other hand I can shoot at 1/250th connecting a sync cable from my D700 to a 300RX strobe but the max I can get using the Skyport is 1/200th so maybe the new Speed transmitter gives me the extra 1/50th Rafael T.
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[godfather] Goldmember 1,736 posts Joined Dec 2007 More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:00 | #1838  Permanent banDarthSparky wrote in post #10738087 Lol - no Rob. This is crazy expensive as it is LOL...... *goes off to write Octa wishlist Let me know when you want Santa to drop you an Octa Elinchrom Studio Equipment Sale
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Lichtwerk Goldmember  1,372 posts Joined Apr 2010 Location: Berlin, Germany More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:05 | #1839 telles75 wrote in post #10738560 I still don;t get it... What is the whole fuss about the new Speed Transmitter.. Says 250th using the Speed Setting... according to manual the old transmitter was good up to 1/1000th.. Am I missing something? On the other hand I can shoot at 1/250th connecting a sync cable from my D700 to a 300RX strobe but the max I can get using the Skyport is 1/200th so maybe the new Speed transmitter gives me the extra 1/50th  I can get a clean 1/200 on my 5D2 using the Speed transmitter, and a very very usable (the tiniest, slightest black border) 1/250. [godfather wrote: ='[godfather];10738564']Let me know when you want Santa to drop you an Octa  Aman, Santa? Diwali! It's much closer than Christmas! Dennis
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[godfather] Goldmember 1,736 posts Joined Dec 2007 More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:07 | #1840 Permanent banLOL! I thought he would not be aware of Diwali, also, Diwali Gift needs firecrackers, which are not allowed to ship Elinchrom Studio Equipment Sale
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telles75 Goldmember 2,184 posts Joined Jan 2007 Location: Toronto More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:19 | #1841 Lichtwerk wrote in post #10738603 I can get a clean 1/200 on my 5D2 using the Speed transmitter, and a very very usable (the tiniest, slightest black border) 1/250. But to be honest, I would get the new transmitter for the build quality alone. Makes the old one seem like a cheap knock-off. ! Build is definetly way superior! I used to get 1/200th clean with my 5D2 with the old transmitter though and a bit vignetting at 1/250. I might just upgrade for build alone, however does the Speed has control for Strobe power on RXs?? The photo does not seem to show that. Rafael T.
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telles75 Goldmember 2,184 posts Joined Jan 2007 Location: Toronto More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:21 | #1842 Disregard my previous message... just saw the picture on the Elinchrom site and the one included in this Thread is the Universal version, not the RX one... Ok, so it seems I might upgrade after all Rafael T.
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Lichtwerk Goldmember 1,372 posts Joined Apr 2010 Location: Berlin, Germany More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:34 | #1843 telles75 wrote in post #10738706 Disregard my previous message... just saw the picture on the Elinchrom site and the one included in this Thread is the Universal version, not the RX one... Ok, so it seems I might upgrade after all  Just be aware that you can't use Speed mode with the RX-Series Skyport plug-in modules. They're not updated (yet). Only Universal and built-in ones are Speed-capable. Dennis
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krb Cream of the Crop  8,818 posts Likes: 8 Joined Jun 2008 Location: Where southern efficiency and northern charm come together More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:44 | #1844 krb wrote in post #10705715 Question for my Elinchrom-using compadres: Is the Pelican 1550 case the right size to carry a pair of BXRis? Using a measuring tape on the lights and looking at the internal dimensions of the case I think it's right but want to make sure. Thanks in advance. Answering my own question in case anybody else needs the info: the 1550 is about perfect for holding a pair of 500s though there is no room for anything else unless you get the organizer that fits in the lid section. I might have been able to fit them more tightly together and then have a small slot down one side that could hold the power cords but it would have been a tight fit. I'll just leave the cords in the duffle with everything else, it's not like they need protection. -- Ken
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sigmapi Cream of the Crop 11,204 posts Likes: 6 Joined Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles More info | Aug 17, 2010 13:47 | #1845 Strobes with no camera ?!??!?! Don't try to confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up.
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