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DIY - Monopod Three-Legged Stand

 
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Mar 11, 2009 21:46 |  #1

PURPOSE:

There are situations where I do not like to take my tripod for camera or camcorder use due to the location being crowded with people. A monopod works great for situations like this except I often desire not having to handhold it for so long, such as a 10 minute video shoot. During the latest shoot at my boys' violin recital, my hands started to shake after awhile, affecting the video quality. I ALSO didn't want to spend over $100-200 on another monopod (except with three legs) that are available on the market.

MATERIAL:

1) My Manfrotto 3245 "Auto" Monopod (with rubber foot off)

2) An old portable and fordable music stand that my boys used to use until broken (DIY folks never throw things away! :))

3) A black duck tape

4) A strip of insulation foam

5) Some soft round foams that came with the purchase of CD or DVD spindles

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PROCESS:

1) Take the top tube out of the music stand
2) Tighten the adjusting knob very hard and then cut it off, as the knob that sticks out won't allow the monopod tube to slide in
3) After painting the white spindle foams, slide them to the bottom for the cushioning the monopod end, like this:

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4) Cut off some insulation foam and using the black duck tape, "fill" the outer part of the thin music stand tube in two or three sections so that when the monopod gets inserted (by taking the monopod's rubber end off), it fits quite snuggly without lose movements

Music stand taped with insulation foam and ready for the monopod use...

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THE FINAL PRODUCT:

With the monopod snuggly inserted over the music stand with no lose movement. Note that the legs can be spread wider or, as in this photo, shorter...
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When it's folded up, it gets the "Gitzo" royal treatment along side that of my Gitzo monopod. :D Note the same length of the folded up stand for easy storing and portability
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SOME OBSERVATIONS ON THIS DIY:

Obviously this DIY is ideally suitable for relatively light load atop a monopod as shown above with my Canon HG10 HDD camcorder. However, it can hold a lot more load as long as the user is willing to stand close by guarding it. For instance, it can handle my 40D with the grip and the 24-70L without any issues. While it CAN doesn't mean I'm going to take the risk, however.

I made this DIY for mainly indoor shooting, so it's more suitable for such as opposed to shooting in outdoors where wind might cause havoc on even the light set up.

Luckily I didn't throw away the broken music stand thanks to my DIY instinct. If anyone wants to duplicate this with the existing monopod (has to be able to access the inner tube of your monopod to work, such as Manfrottos or similar brands and make) instead of paying $100-200 for another, specialized monopod, you can purchase a new music stand at your local music store for only around $10 which is what I had paid for the one used above.


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Apr 24, 2010 10:51 |  #2

Thanks for this post. As you have also a Gitzo monopod: i wonder if you could tell that is there a way to make this kind of tripod base for a Gitzo monopod?




  
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Apr 24, 2010 11:19 |  #3

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Thanks for this post. As you have also a Gitzo monopod: i wonder if you could tell that is there a way to make this kind of tripod base for a Gitzo monopod?

Not with Gitzo. It's base leg is not wide enough, and its design is more sophisticated. My DIY is really for cheap monopods... :)



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Apr 24, 2010 11:35 |  #4

Thats a great idea!!!

Manfrotto have one like this... I have been considering buying one of them. Is there any disadvantage with this cind of monopod, compared to a normal one?

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Apr 24, 2010 11:54 |  #5

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Thats a great idea!!!

Manfrotto have one like this... I have been considering buying one of them. Is there any disadvantage with this cind of monopop, compared to a normal one?

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Getting one of these (by Monfrotto or DIY) can come in handy. I use it mostly for my camcorder when I got really tired of hand-holding it for a long time while shooting my boys' violin recitals. Because of the crowded room, using my tripod wasn't a good idea with the possibility of people tripping and so on -- which did happen on more than one occasion when I first went with a tripod route, so the DIY.

I was aware of the Manfrotto product long before my DIY. The reason why I decided to go a DIY route was simply that I already had a Manfrotto monopod that you can easily take the rubber "shoe" off of. I also had a broken music stand, so that worked out. These music stands cost only about $10 new, so it's an option if you already happen to have a monopod. If you don't have a monopod already, then simply spending $109 for one might be worth it, instead.



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Apr 24, 2010 12:05 as a reply to  @ SYS's post |  #6

SYS: I see... hmm what do you think: would it work that if one takes the music stand's centre column apart and attach the three legs directly to the Gitzo monopod / or any monopod? There seems to be some kind of screw in music stand's three leg base that you can loosen or tighten those three legs that how they attach to the centre column (in this scenario to the monopod's column).

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SYS: I see... hmm what do you think: would it work that if one takes the music stand's centre column apart and attach the three legs directly to the Gitzo monopod / or any monopod? There seems to be some kind of screw in music stand's three leg base that you can loosen or tighten those three legs that how they attach to the centre column (in this scenario to the monopod's column).

?

There are two kinds of music stands: foldable and non-foldable. Neither has a screw, and even if it does, most likely the thread size is going to be different than the Gitzo's. Another idea is to use the following PVC "docking station." I just remove the top portion and stick the Gitzo monopod in. The problem with this is that the legs are not foldable and not so great for easy transportability:

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Apr 24, 2010 12:34 as a reply to  @ SYS's post |  #8

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure if you understood correctly (sorry for confusion), i didn't mean that you would screw the music stand to the monopod in a way that you screw for example camera to the tripod mount / or quick plate.

I ment that if the music stand's centre column is changed to monopod's centre column. So in other words the music stand's centre column and monopod "changes places": the monopod is attached to the music stand in a way like the music stand's centre column is normally attached to the music stand's legs.

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Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure if you understood correctly (sorry for confusion), i didn't mean that you would screw the music stand to the monopod in a way that you screw for example camera to the tripod mount / or quick plate.

I ment that if the music stand's centre column is changed to monopod's centre column. So in other words the music stand's centre column and monopod "changes places": the monopod is attached to the music stand in a way like the music stand's centre column is normally attached to the music stand's legs.

Let me know if our understanding is at a same "frequency" https://photography-on-the.net …es/smilies/icon​_smile.gif

I see... I can visualize where you're getting at. I just don't see the "how" part, and even if you can get the "how" part out of the way, whether it's worth the trouble and time to manufacture such a DIY.



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Apr 24, 2010 13:45 as a reply to  @ SYS's post |  #10

Thanks for the reply. Ok. Maybe it might work.

Hmm what is the model of the Gitzo monopod in your picture? Does it's first section / leg column (i mean the first column counting from below of the monopod) have about same thickness that is with the music stand's centre column?

I assume there is some sort of thightening knob for the legs in the music stand? So that how low or high the legs support the music stand....perhaps there is some space / room to play then that how thick monopod column can be attached to the music stand's legs as a column....




  
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Thanks for the reply. Ok. Maybe it might work.

Hmm what is the model of the Gitzo monopod in your picture? Does it's first section / leg column (i mean the first column counting from below of the monopod) have about same thickness that is with the music stand's centre column?

I assume there is some sort of thightening knob for the legs in the music stand? So that how low or high the legs support the music stand....perhaps there is some space / room to play then that how thick monopod column can be attached to the music stand's legs as a column....

The model of my monopod is Gitzo GM-3550 (discontinued I believe). The last leg is, yes, about the same thickness as the music stand column. The music stand has the tightening "press up or down" type of knob for adjusting its height.



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Apr 25, 2010 02:31 as a reply to  @ SYS's post |  #12

Thanks for the reply. Ok, then it might work... but actually the screwing thing might be easier. At least with Gitzo GT2541EX tripod one can change the feets. The thread of replacement feets are about 9mm. Seems that Gitzo Monopods also have removable feet (at least the Gitzo 2009 catalogue indicates so).

So all that is needed might be just to find a small / mini tripod that build is strong enough and then modifying the thread of the minitripod to fit to the bottom of the Gitzo monopod (if it doesn't fit straight away). In this scenario one could always leave the minitripod screwed to the botom of the monopod: if you want to use it as a monopod then just turn the minitripod's legs to be straight column and if one needs to have a tripod function then adjust the minitripod's legs to be a tripod... so in this scneario monopod would be used kind of like "Trekpod fashion".

Yes seems that the GM3550 has been discontinued (at least didn't notice it in 2009 catalogue)... perhaps it is the GM3551 now. Been "thinking" to buy that or GM5561T or the "mini" monopod (GM2561T) that has 36cm folded lenght... although it's max. taking weight seems to be "only" 4,5kg. The little taller GM5561T (41,5cm) could be perhaps best if one looks for "compact" folded lenght that can take heavy load (25kg) But if not the Gm3551 seems to have "best" attributes: 192cm open lenght and 54cm folded lenght and weights 0,62kg. Can take 18kg load.




  
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Apr 25, 2010 10:58 as a reply to  @ CAM10's post |  #13

Well things might get easier.... seems that the 9mm thread is actually 3/8 thread. So if Gitzo monopods has also same thread then there is only needed adapter if a mini / table tripod has a 1/4 thread.... thought it seems that the 1/4 to 3/8 adapter should be at least 1cm long (i tested on Gitzo GT2541EX tripod, but i hadn't an adapter that would be long enough; i improvised).




  
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Apr 25, 2010 11:13 |  #14

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Well things might get easier.... seems that the 9mm thread is actually 3/8 thread. So if Gitzo monopods has also same thread then there is only needed adapter if a mini / table tripod has a 1/4 thread.... thought it seems that the 1/4 to 3/8 adapter should be at least 1cm long (i tested on Gitzo GT2541EX tripod, but i hadn't an adapter that would be long enough; i improvised).

Be sure to post some images of the result!



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Apr 25, 2010 13:45 as a reply to  @ SYS's post |  #15

Yes i can do so, though it might look "silly" to attach table tripod to a tripod: but if it works with a tripod then why not with a monopod too. Could take some time though... bought today via internet a mini tripod Giottos QU 500B. Max load 5kg and closed lenght 13.4cm so it will not add so much lenght to a monopod. Might still need to buy also a 1/4 to 3/8 adapter that is about 1cm long or longer.

Anyway, SUS: could you look at your Gitzo monopod that does it use 3/8 ("9mm") thread for the foot connection?




  
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