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Amazed at the 5D2 video's bokeh

 
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Mar 12, 2009 17:51 |  #1

I love the way the FF sensor melts the BG and FG into sweet bokeh when filming wild birds in busy environment using long lenses. :)

Here's a Pied Fantail filmed under a tree canopy in very low light:

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Mar 12, 2009 18:24 |  #2

At around 55 seconds, are those ants climbing up and down the tree?

That is beautiful video. Another item added to my long list of wants that wont ever happen.


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Mar 12, 2009 18:57 |  #3

Bendel wrote in post #7511800 (external link)
At around 55 seconds, are those ants climbing up and down the tree?

That is beautiful video. Another item added to my long list of wants that wont ever happen.

Thanks, Bendel ..... you're right, those are out-of-focus ants walking along a back-lit branch in the background. :)

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Mar 12, 2009 23:18 |  #4

where did you get the audio for that video?


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Mar 13, 2009 19:02 |  #5

bokeh is primarily a function of the blades in the lense, not the sensor size.

nice clip.


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Mar 14, 2009 14:49 |  #6

osv wrote in post #7518973 (external link)
bokeh is primarily a function of the blades in the lense, not the sensor size.

nice clip.

But sensor size has a lot to do with DOF at any give aperture which would effect the amount (but not necessarily the quality) of the bokeh correct?




  
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Mar 14, 2009 15:46 |  #7

cool video parekoy...lol


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Mar 17, 2009 20:00 |  #8

yes, dof could be a factor.


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Mar 21, 2009 09:04 |  #9

Travis Ingle wrote in post #7522979 (external link)
But sensor size has a lot to do with DOF at any give aperture which would effect the amount (but not necessarily the quality) of the bokeh correct?

You sir, are correct!


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Mar 23, 2009 09:08 |  #10

Wow !! Superb quality, I am impressed !


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Mar 27, 2009 21:07 |  #11

Yup. Try this with say an HV30 and see if you have the same shallow amount of DOF. Not going to happen as narrow as this. :)

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Mar 28, 2009 14:37 as a reply to  @ skulpt's post |  #12

dof and bokeh are not the same thing... you don't need 1.2 glass for good bokeh:

The shape of the aperture has a great influence on the subjective quality of bokeh. When a lens is stopped down to *something other than its maximum aperture (external link) size* (minimum f-number (external link)), out-of-focus points are blurred into the polygonal (external link) shape of the aperture rather than perfect circles. This is most apparent when a lens produces undesirable, hard-edged bokeh, therefore some lenses have aperture blades with curved edges to make the aperture more closely approximate a circle rather than a polygon. Lens designers can also increase the number of blades to achieve the same effect. Traditional "Portrait" lenses, such as the "fast" 85mm focal length models for 35mm cameras often feature almost circular aperture diaphragms, as is the case with Canon's EF 85mm f/1.2L II lens (external link) and Nikon's 85mm f/1.4D (external link), and are generally considered exceptional performers. A catadioptric (external link) telephoto lens (external link) displays bokehs resembling doughnuts, because its secondary mirror (external link) blocks the central part of the aperture opening.


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Mar 28, 2009 14:42 |  #13

here are a couple of bokeh shots at 5.6, from crop sensor cameras:

http://www.slrphotogra​phyguide.com/tips/boke​h-DOF.shtml (external link)


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Apr 06, 2009 02:13 |  #14

Travis Ingle wrote in post #7522979 (external link)
But sensor size has a lot to do with DOF at any give aperture which would effect the amount (but not necessarily the quality) of the bokeh correct?

true and false. sensor/image size is important, but DOF is really a factor of the focal distance, aperture size, image distance (distance between the nodal point of the lens to the image plane) and object distance. You can have similar DOF with a FF image compared to a crop sensor as long as the lens, aperture, object distance and the image distance is the same. It's just that you are cropping out a portion of the image in the camera. It's very similar when shifting an image with a large format camera. Your DOF remains the same, you are just moving the crop.

Bokeh is dependent on the aperture size, aperture construction and even the lens design.


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