Elinchrom Quadra or Ranger?

Rai33 wrote in post #13762360
+1 ...the shots shown here are fill light. Some may be surprised with how similar you can achieve with even just a reflector (as in bouncing the light back ie. not using a strobe). To me overpowering the sun is to have the subject facing directly into the sun and have the ability to have them lit 100% by the strobe (0% ambient). The big Ranger can even struggle to do this depending on modifier and distance.

Why would anyone want to have someone solely lit by strobe outdoors? Just curious.

JakAHearts wrote in post #13762386
Why would anyone want to have someone solely lit by strobe outdoors? Just curious.

It can provide creative options - light what you want to light, create/control the light you want.

Rai33 wrote in post #13762609
It can provide creative options - light what you want to light, create/control the light you want.

I figured thats what youd say. Though unless the subject was against a wall or you had lots of lights, wouldnt it just be a person standing in blackness?

JakAHearts wrote in post #13762666
I figured thats what youd say. Though unless the subject was against a wall or you had lots of lights, wouldnt it just be a person standing in blackness?

Yep... if that's what you were trying to achieve.

I've never had an issue with the Quadra not being enough power, and I've hardly ever had to use it at full power using 1 head.

Just a heads up, dont know if this has posted before :
Just did a shoot in China where I had to travel via China domestic airlines through their domestic airports to several cities.
Ran into issue of not being able to check in or hand carry Quadra batts (they were dismounted & fuse removed as advised in manual for air travel in manual)
It seems China domestic airports have more stringent requirements than IATA.
The manual is useless there, the security can read English, but they are adamant their safety requirement regarding batts are more stringent than IATA.
It was only after much explanation & demo, & some kind airline rep that we can get on with our travel.

If you need to travel inland China via their domestic airports, go early cause they
will take a long time to check through your Quadra batts.

Going into & out of China from their international flights terminal with full fledge airlines, no problems at all.


Hope it helps

Funny, i just flew through India and Dubai and while they did stop me, i showed them the bottom of the battery and explained that the fuse can be removed and they were totally fine with it. FWIW, Dubai has one of the most stringent airport security staff in the world.

hi,

I have a question re the quadra rangers.

Im doing a shoot thats set in a forest so there will be dappled light. Will also be in a clearing so some direct light (but probably not powerful sunlight as its usually overcast).

Would the quadra rangers be suitable? are they controllable enough to be able to be really precise re lighting the model vs the trees?

thanks
gpc

Not too sure what you mean by precise control, but the power output can be adjusted in 1/10 stop increments (however A:B port is always 2:1 ratio). As discussed before, the power is debatable topic, but I would say it is plenty for most applications. So yes it is suitable.

Thanks

Sorry, a bit vague so i will expand a little.....

The idea is that the model is wearing a red cloak and standing about 5m in front of the tree line. I want the model to be lit well, and the trees to be fairly dark. I was thinking fo using the qudras to illuminate the model and some speedlights to illuminate some of the trees (speedlight at the base of the trees pointing up).

I want to underexpose the ambient to create a darkened woodland look, but have the model and the red cloak quite punchy.

I want to create movement by the model swishing the cloak and also jumping over some larger fallen trees with the cloak flowing behind.

Im quite new to this so i want to make sure i hire the right gear to begin with and then if it suits my needs i can purchase.

I was thinking of coupling the quadras with a beauty dish and / or softboxes.

I think they will do the job fine, and the portability is also pretty useful, but if anyone (based on the above ramble) has an opinion / feedback that would be greatly appreciated. They seem to be ticking all the boxes thus far but like i said, my knowledge is limited and this will be the first hands on shoot with this type of set up.

Thanks in advance
Gpc

It would probably be to your advantage to use modifiers on the Quadra that are as efficient as possible - especially if you envision using both heads off a single pack.
I'd tend to think that a single head would win out - remember the asymmetric power division thing......but this is all only a stab in the dark without knowing the ambient brightness level that you will be experiencing.....