Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
Thread started 19 Mar 2009 (Thursday) 11:04
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

OK this lens lisn't great, but...

 
DreDaze
happy with myself for not saying anything stupid
Avatar
18,407 posts
Gallery: 49 photos
Likes: 3431
Joined Mar 2006
Location: S.F. Bay Area
     
Mar 19, 2009 14:16 |  #16

sports mode also does AI-Servo focus if i'm not mistaken...which is good for moving objects, however in this situation i think you would've been served just fine using One-shot...i agree though, try and get closer


Andre or Dre
gear list
Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rowdyred94
Goldmember
Avatar
1,969 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 7
Joined Mar 2005
Location: St. Cloud, MN, USA
     
Mar 19, 2009 14:40 |  #17

From that distance you could focus on the subject once and leave it alone. I also think you got focus on the fence, and the exposure is too long to capture sports.


~ Clint :: Galleries (external link) ::

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Brett
Goldmember
Avatar
4,176 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2008
Location: Ohio
     
Mar 19, 2009 14:41 |  #18

DreDaze wrote in post #7556736 (external link)
sports mode also does AI-Servo focus if i'm not mistaken...which is good for moving objects, however in this situation i think you would've been served just fine using One-shot...i agree though, try and get closer

Yes, sports mode on the XSi changes AF to Servo. Servo and new users don't always go well together...I had my own struggles with it.

You could likely get more shutter speed controlling the ISO yourself. It looks like an overcast day, and you're shooting a slow lens. 1/100 is slow for 80mm on a crop camera, but bumping the ISO would have given you a faster shutter speed.

Otherwise, as others said: get closer! :)



flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sebr
Goldmember
Avatar
4,628 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jan 2007
Location: Sweden/France
     
Mar 19, 2009 15:08 |  #19

mishymama, as others have said, increasing your shutter speed and may be getting closer should improve your shots. Also avoid shooting wide open with this lens should get you sharper images.
Try the following: Set focus to center point, go to AV mode, set aperture to f/8.0, put ISO to 400, focus on the target and see what shutter speed you get. If you want a faster speed, increase the ISO.


Sebastien
5D mkIII ; 17-40L ; 24-105L ; 70-200L II ; 70-300L ; 35L ; Σ85/1.4 ; 135L ; 100macro ; Kenko 1.4x ; 2x mkIII ; 580EXII
M5 ; M1 ; 11-22 ; 18-150 ; 22/2.0 ; EF adapter; Manfrotto LED
Benron Tripod; ThinkTank, Lowepro and Crumpler bags; Fjällräven backpack

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JeffreyG
"my bits and pieces are all hard"
Avatar
15,540 posts
Gallery: 42 photos
Likes: 620
Joined Jan 2007
Location: Detroit, MI
     
Mar 19, 2009 16:53 |  #20

Sports mode does not work for this shot for a number of reasons.

1) All auto modes take focus point decisions out of your hands. This often does not focus on the subject.
2) All auto modes limit ISO to 400. Your slow f/5.6 lens and ISO400 left you at 1/100 for shutter speed which is too slow.
3) This image is too small to judge everything, but for sure the framing is way too loose. You needed to be a lot closer to the subject. Never mind keeping the catcher in the frame BTW, he adds nothing to the shot.

A reasonable newbie approach to this shot would be Av mode, ISO1600, f/5.6 and 1/400. Get closer or get a longer lens.


My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/​photos/jngirbach/sets/ (external link)
I use a Canon 5DIII and a Sony A7rIII

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mishymama
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
60 posts
Joined Mar 2009
     
Mar 19, 2009 18:55 |  #21

thanks everyone!!!! Many of you suggested getting closer (inperson or with a lens). If it is with a lens what would you suggest (for a mother of 4 on a limited budget). Thanks




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DreDaze
happy with myself for not saying anything stupid
Avatar
18,407 posts
Gallery: 49 photos
Likes: 3431
Joined Mar 2006
Location: S.F. Bay Area
     
Mar 19, 2009 19:00 |  #22

canon 55-250IS...you can get it refurbished from adorama for $199


Andre or Dre
gear list
Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JeffreyG
"my bits and pieces are all hard"
Avatar
15,540 posts
Gallery: 42 photos
Likes: 620
Joined Jan 2007
Location: Detroit, MI
     
Mar 19, 2009 19:21 |  #23

DreDaze wrote in post #7558450 (external link)
canon 55-250IS...you can get it refurbished from adorama for $199

Ditto that. Very well regarded lens for the price, and perfect addition to a family shooter looking for some reach on a budget.


My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/​photos/jngirbach/sets/ (external link)
I use a Canon 5DIII and a Sony A7rIII

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Layston
Senior Member
Avatar
726 posts
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Boston
     
Mar 19, 2009 19:22 |  #24

Another highly popular lens is the Sigma 70-300 APO DG. Do NOT get the non-APO version.

And I don't know if someone said it and I missed it, but here is a general rule of thumb: Shutter speed should be at least 1/focal length. So if you are shooting at 80mm shutter speed should be 1/80 or faster. BUT since you have a crop body, you need to be at 1/(focal length * 1.6) so 1/(80x1.6) = 1/128. Because I can't hold a lens steady to save my life, I say 1/2xfocal length at least. So for me I'd be looking at 1/200 - 1/500 with your 28-80.

My prefered settings would be to go into Tv, set my shutter speed to 1/200 or 1/500 and adjust ISO so that my aperture was around f/8. If aperture moves a little it won't matter but in those lighting conditions it shouldn't move much once you are started and if you want you can go full manual after you get one shot you like and set it to that level permanently. In post processing you can always adjust up or down a stop to two stops in lighting as long as you don't have blown out areas. I also use center focal point and one-shot. I know it's sports but with one-shot you get the focus confirm beep.


GEAR LIST

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Redfire_Cobra
Senior Member
Avatar
872 posts
Joined Feb 2009
Location: Georgia
     
Mar 19, 2009 19:26 |  #25

I notice the fence in the background looks like it's 8 foot tall at the lowest point, were you having to shoot through a fence like this also? If so that could be part of your problem as the silver color will reflect light back into your lens and give the picture a dull grey look. There are ways around that (partially) but you will have to start using different setting other than the auto ones.


Canon 60D
Canon 50 f/1.8, Canon 70-200L f/2.8,
-Chris

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mishymama
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
60 posts
Joined Mar 2009
     
Mar 19, 2009 19:28 |  #26

You are all so informative and helpful...awesome...th​anks!!!!!




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
In2Photos
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
19,813 posts
Likes: 6
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Near Charlotte, NC.
     
Mar 19, 2009 21:04 |  #27

DreDaze wrote in post #7558450 (external link)
canon 55-250IS...you can get it refurbished from adorama for $199

Or if you can find one there is an older Canon 70-210 model. Make sure it is the f/3.5-4.5 USM model, not the f/4 version. They can be had for $150ish on the used market. In fact I think there is one for sale in the marketplace here for about $165.


Mike, The Keeper of the Archive

Current Gear and Feedback

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rubberhead
Goldmember
Avatar
1,899 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Feb 2006
Location: South Carolina's Lowcountry
     
Mar 20, 2009 07:53 |  #28

I've got one (28-80mm mk II) too - sorry but the lens stinketh.

You might want to consider getting the 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS. You will be much, much happier. I'd say do it now because every game you wait is photos you'll never get a chance at again.

For sports you might want to consider putting the camera in Av and running the f-stop to the smallest number (largest opening) usually somewhere between 3.5 and 5.6 for most lenses.


EQUIPMENT: 40D | Rebel XT | EF 70-200mm f/4L IS | EF-S 10-22mm | EF 28-135mm IS | EF-S 18-55mm IS | EF 50mm 1.8 - flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
vpnd
Goldmember
Avatar
1,483 posts
Joined Oct 2007
Location: nd
     
Mar 20, 2009 08:57 |  #29

up iso, shutter speed, Cappa says get closer, I'd listen


Canon "Snappy".... Thanks Mom and Dad!
"I don't like to play dress up, or pet my gear. I like to shoot stuff and then print it and put it on my wall."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,181 views & 0 likes for this thread, 20 members have posted to it and it is followed by 2 members.
OK this lens lisn't great, but...
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is SteveeY
1639 guests, 173 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.