Thanks guys for all your help. I got my 70-200L 2.8 IS in Friday and my 17-55mm 2.8 IS in today and all I can say is WOW. I think the 17-55 2.8 is the better value all the way around man does this thing take great photos. I will post a couple semi-macros I took soon as I got it out of the box.
I had no idea I would be able to get as close as I can with this 17-55. I went outside to take some test shots and I thought I was going to touch some of the bush branches. That thing has to have like a 12" - 14" macro on it. and the Brokeh is as good as the 70-200L on those close zooms from about a foot away wide open.
In fact every shoot took so far was a keeper (just in IQ the shoots them selves are just test shoots around the house)
Sad to say, Sat I missed more then half my shoots at my nephews Bday party with the 70-200L. I was quiet pised. I think some of it was my drive settings on my 40D. Had it on single shot instead of servo drive on a lot of shoots. I still think that the IS lacks a lot on this lens. 
I still have one 17-85 4-5.6 IS lens left if anyone want to see any comparisons between these two lenses. I am here to tell you though, there isn't any!!!!!
Stay tuned for some sample shoots.



