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Mar 31, 2009 08:43 |  #241

I knew I should have bookmarked the site I read mine from, but I didn't. However, it claims the new sensor is not gapless, so making it a lot less like the 50D sensor than your link claims. I have searched around looking, and found a complete lack of a detailed description of the X1i sensor, except for your link, so while we all know the ad men don't lie, not even by ommision, I will remain sceptical, until I see more written about the sensor.

But, I hope your right and I'm wrong, cause I was pretty excited about getting one myself, for the video, until I read my link, but now I will wait to see how image quality is after they come out. :)


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Mar 31, 2009 12:26 |  #242
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canonloader wrote in post #7635929 (external link)
I knew I should have bookmarked the site I read mine from, but I didn't. However, it claims the new sensor is not gapless, so making it a lot less like the 50D sensor than your link claims. I have searched around looking, and found a complete lack of a detailed description of the X1i sensor, except for your link, so while we all know the ad men don't lie, not even by ommision, I will remain sceptical, until I see more written about the sensor.

But, I hope your right and I'm wrong, cause I was pretty excited about getting one myself, for the video, until I read my link, but now I will wait to see how image quality is after they come out. :)

I'm pretty sure the comment about the sensor is included in the video I posted in my blog... http://blog.planet500d​.com …onal-details-on-the-500d/ (external link)

I remember them saying something about the sensor on the 500d not being the same as the 50D and there were gaps in the 500d. (sorry don't have time right now to get thru the interview again right now)


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Mar 31, 2009 12:28 |  #243
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I can't believe how unbelievably expensive this thing is in the UK. At current exchange rates, it's $1230. To put this into perspective, from the UK's biggest online camera retailer, I could get a brand new 50d for less than I'd pay for a 500d.

It's almost twice the price of the 450d. Just sick.

I understand - there was a blog post we highlighted in our blog yesterday but here's the link to the original site that reported it

http://www.amateurphot​ographer.co.uk …_news_279602.ht​ml?aff=rss (external link)


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Mar 31, 2009 12:46 |  #244

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i'm thinking of selling my xsi kit + powershot tx1 for t1i. should i pull the trigger?

I won't be doing any such thing. The after market right now kinda sucks. I payed a thousand (CAD) for my XSi, and a few hundred bucks back in my pocket doesn't sound very logical considering I have about 44,000 shots left on it. I've got a few L lenses and I'd like the T1i and the XSi to work together for shooting flexibility.


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Mar 31, 2009 14:24 |  #245

I'm pretty sure the comment about the sensor is included in the video I posted in my blog...

That's it. I did a search for Rebel X1i video on YouTube, and this was one of them. Good memory. Either way though, I pixelpeeped the sample shots on DPreview and not sure if it's me or what, but they looked pretty darn soft to me, nothing to brag about. We'll see though, once it comes out, there will be better shots to look at right here in the forum. No way is the sensor the same as on the 50D though. ;)


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Mar 31, 2009 15:39 |  #246

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From http://www.robgalbrait​h.com/bins/mul...id=7-9973-9976 (external link) :

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.... The only notable specification difference is the number of channels each sensor incorporates for data readout: the 50D has four, while the Rebel T1i has two.

What does this mean in terms of performance?




  
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Mar 31, 2009 19:19 |  #247

I don't think this camera really has to do with higher megapixels (it's new, so of course it's going to be higher) it's REALLY about the video.

Do you REALLY think that people who want video are going to buy a 5DmkII just for that feature? Or for less then half the price get a Nikon D90..hmm. I'm not saying that the 5D isn't worth the money, but for some the D90 would be the perfect package.

Again instead of stepping on each other's toes, Canon has decided to put video into their entry level camera instead of a 50D replacement (although I'm sure the 60D will have video, this seems to be the pattern now).

I think this is a great move for Canon to freshen up their lineup. However I would have been alot more excited to see a 60D with improved IQ (as good or better then D300) for under $1500ish.


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Apr 01, 2009 00:02 as a reply to  @ DStanic's post |  #248

This looks like the perfect replacement/upgrade to my XT. Just wondering if the 1080p/20fps is a hardware or software limitation. I'd really prefer to shoot 1080 at 24fps. If it is software, hopefully someone will figure out how to activate it. He he... That would pretty much wrap it up for me.:D


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Apr 01, 2009 00:41 |  #249

Well, futureshop here in canada is taking pre-orders for this $1099 CDN:

http://www.futureshop.​ca …id=22553&logon=​&langid=EN (external link)

The XSi is $729.99 CDN:

http://www.futureshop.​ca …=0665000FS10101​163&catid= (external link)

Is the extra $350+ CDN worth the upgrade?

Personally..No. I would rather get a 40D body only (or used 50D body only) for the same price as a T1i. If I wanted video, I'd get a video camera.

Thats just my personal opinion though.


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Apr 01, 2009 05:06 |  #250

Just wondering if the 1080p/20fps is a hardware or software limitation.

Software. The explanation I read said, the only difference from the 5DMkII is processing power. They didn't explain how that works since both have a Digic IV. There seems to be a lot of hot air advertising comments floating around about this camera, and personally, I think we should wait another few weeks for it to iron itself out before we get the real story. ;)

If I wanted video, I'd get a video camera.

Not for only $799, and certainly not one that can use all of the EF and EF-s lens lineup.


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Apr 01, 2009 11:31 |  #251

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Not for only $799, and certainly not one that can use all of the EF and EF-s lens lineup.

Yup..not for $1100 CDN. But I I figure that a slightly used 40D here fetches $650-700 CDN body only. That leaves me with at least $400 CDN to buy a video camera.

A new XSI is kit is $729 CDN. The T1i is $1100. Thats a $371 difference. For a couple hundred bucks, you can get a dedicated Hi Def camcorder on the side.

Again, this was just my opinion. I'm sure some people would like the 'all in one' product.

This camera is geared towards the entry level. As a recent entry level person myself, I was more concerned with cost then anything else. People said the XS didn't have this or didn't have that. I think to myself..I won't need this, I won't need that and was still more concerned about cost because the XSi was at least $200 more expensive.

In this day and age, I think $1100 for an entry level dSLR is a bit too expensive. That's why this camera didn't replace any model..but is an add on. People will still buy the XS and the XSi just because it's in the price range for most entry level people.


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Apr 01, 2009 11:47 |  #252

canonloader wrote in post #7642815 (external link)
Software. The explanation I read said, the only difference from the 5DMkII is processing power. They didn't explain how that works since both have a Digic IV. There seems to be a lot of hot air advertising comments floating around about this camera, and personally, I think we should wait another few weeks for it to iron itself out before we get the real story. ;)

How do you know it's software? Could be that the T1i has a smaller buffer than the 5DII. Or the processor has to be underclocked to not deplete the smaller battery too quickly. There are probably other possible hardware factors that would limit the T1i to 1080p/20, but those are a couple I can think of right away. I'm not saying it's not software; just that nobody knows.




  
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Apr 01, 2009 11:49 |  #253

That leaves me with at least $400 CDN to buy a video camera.

You won't get much for that. I wanted to buy a Canon SX-10 IS for the video. Even ordered two from B&H. First one came, and was defective. I had to send it back, wait till they refunded my money before I could get another one. Guess what. They sent me another defective camera, same problem too, in an unopened box. By the time B&H was through dicking me around, it took a month to get all my money back and be done with those hose heads. Probably just as good though with this X1i coming out soon.

In the mean time, I bought a Canon FS-100 video camera at Walmart, cause I wanted to shoot some video. It looked good in the ads, even messed around with one at the store, but in the end, it is a waste of money, the videos are poor quality, small and the camera is like trying to shoot with a cell phone, it's so small. Doesn't fit the hands at all. It's only saving grace is it has a remote you can control it with, which still leaves you with small dimension, poor quality video.


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Apr 01, 2009 11:53 |  #254

How do you know it's software?

Just assumed it was, since it's the Firmware that underclocks, if that's what they do, or detune it or whatever. Not likely even Canon puts out two different processors both named Digic 4. Of course, they might, they put out a D30, then a 30D. ;)


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Apr 02, 2009 01:55 |  #255

I'm so excited about this camera, as soon as I see them for sale I'm ordering one.


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