It's Official: Canon Rebel T1i

davidiphoto wrote in post #7844088
So, if I understand you, the 40D is way better than the T1i.
Please clarify. While money is very important, I want the camera that is the better value for money long term.
I'm not interested in the movie aspect of the 500D. So in the end, I just want to choose between the cameras that allow for the best manual picture-taking for the long term.
So which wins for value 450D, 500D or 40D?
I believe the prices are $600, $800 and $1,100 right now.

Any last advice will be taken very seriously.
David

If you truly don't care about the movie mode, then the 40d should take pictures faster, and probably better high ISO shots (though the t1i is a step above the other Rebels).

The rest is ergonomics. I'd like to have the high ISO and speed of the 40d, but I don't want the extra weight, prefer the smaller body, and i actually don't like the thumb wheel. However, there are clearly MANY people who prefer a larger camera and the thumb wheel. So, try to test drive both if you can.

But if you really don't care about the T1i and if you like the ergos of the 40d, then it should be a no-brainer (cost aside, of course).

davidiphoto wrote in post #7844088
So, if I understand you, the 40D is way better than the T1i.
Please clarify. While money is very important, I want the camera that is the better value for money long term.
I'm not interested in the movie aspect of the 500D. So in the end, I just want to choose between the cameras that allow for the best manual picture-taking for the long term.
So which wins for value 450D, 500D or 40D?
I believe the prices are $600, $800 and $1,100 right now.

Any last advice will be taken very seriously.
David

im interested too. IN new zealand the 500D is going to be about the same price than a 50D imported. Is the 50D better than a 40D? Why is the 50D being left out of the equasion?
thanks

keriboi wrote in post #7846054
im interested too. IN new zealand the 500D is going to be about the same price than a 50D imported. Is the 50D better than a 40D? Why is the 50D being left out of the equasion?
thanks

For me, the 50D is most expensive and it was not rated that much better than the 40D. Seems as if the big improve on the 50D was the 15MegaPixel which I don't need for the additional price. So, I'm leaning towards the 40D but don't have all that money right now. Plus, I have all the Rebel accessories and they would fit the 500D and not the 40D (thus more money to spend).

Still a tough choice...

Here's my two cents: I own a Rebel XSi and a 50D. I wouldn't even CONSIDER the thought of the 50D sensor and the gimmicky "video" mode, (if I wanted that I'd use my S3 IS) shoved in the cheesy plastic body of the XSi that I rarely shoot now that I bought a metal camera. The AF performance and the frame rate stomp on the Rebel, and the intangible of "feel" is not the least of the differences in the cameras.

The viewfinder is vastly different and the controls are just a pleasure to use. If you're a weekend warrior, possibly the Rebel might be the camera for you. If you are like me and need something that is a little more serious of a camera, I'd suggest the XXD series of cameras. The awkwardness and difficulty of the controls are the icing on the cake. Image quality is roughly equal, but not much is going to save a shot that wasn't captured because I was playing with the controls to adjust my camera.

Bottom line for me, is that after using my 50D, my Rebel feels like a toy. Now on to FF. If the question is the best camera for the long run, forget crop bodies altogether, get a 5D classic, and some 'L' lenses. That way you don't get caught in the trap I'm in now. A bunch of EF-S lenses, and a desire for a FF body that won't mount the EF-S lenses. More food for thought.

davidiphoto wrote in post #7844088
So, if I understand you, the 40D is way better than the T1i.
Please clarify. While money is very important, I want the camera that is the better value for money long term.
I'm not interested in the movie aspect of the 500D. So in the end, I just want to choose between the cameras that allow for the best manual picture-taking for the long term.
So which wins for value 450D, 500D or 40D?
I believe the prices are $600, $800 and $1,100 right now.

Any last advice will be taken very seriously.
David

Like many have said. The rebels are rebels. They are ok basic cameras. Pixel density does not do much and not the reason to upgrade. Look at the whole things not just the 15MP vs 10mp vx 21 mp

I think somewhere in this thread I posted the techincal differences of the 500d vs xxd here they come.

The AF it is better in the 40D/50D. The 500d shares same nine points, but they are NOT all cross. The 40D/50D have extra diag assist points in the center with f/2.8 and faster lenses.

The 40D/50D have a longer battery life like 500 vs 1100 shots. They use compact flash (the 50D suppports UDMA CF). They have a 1/8000 shutter max shutter speed vs. 1/4000 on the 500D (rebels).

The viewfinder is pentamirror with 95% coverage for the 500D. The 40D/50 use pentaprism same coverage.

user-set Color Temperature (2,500~10,000K) for the 40D/50D. None for the 500D.

The 40D/50D can control speedlites from their own menus and have PC terminal, flash exposure compensation. The 500D does not.

The 40D/50D have a 100,000 shutter life. I don't think the rebels (500D) are over 50,000.

3fps vs 6fps, better ruggness and weather resistant.

Optional Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E3A that can control the camera from a web browser and be able to transmitt frames as you shoot them. The rebels none.

The 50D have AF microadjustments. The 40D does not nor the 500D.

Best bang for the buck...40D. If you can spend a little more...50D hands down.

I think the MP race and video...does not come into the equation UNLESS you print large.

I just shot the toyota grand prix and I saw 1-2 rebels with kit lens out of 200 credentialed photogs. They were not shooting the cars, but scene shots.

I think the 500d is intended for family oriented shots and the traveller (aka tourist). You have two gears in one (video and photo) and pretty much only need spare batteries, memory cards and a 10-22 or 17-55 lens. Can't beat that!

^^ Great info!

SX1 to T1i

I got the SX1 back in Nov 08 because I wanted a camera with video and I couldn't afford the 5dmk2. Although I was very happy with the SX1's features, I always felt the still and video PQ was lacking. When I heard the T1i was coming, I had a feeling the SX1 was going to be on ebay soon. I finally found a store that carried both the D5000, and T1i. After shooting both, I felt the T1i was for me. The D5000 is a great camera and it was a hard decision. What pushed me to the T1i was the fact that I have access to some great Canon glass. So I bought the T1i Friday night and used it all day Saturday. So far I'm impressed with the T1i for both stills and video. I will have to say that I do miss some of the SX1's P&S features like the in camera editing of stills and video. I obviously have a lot to learn about PP on the computer and the T1i especially since it's my first dslr.

BTW, Thanks to those that post useful info on this board. The info has been very helpful.

I am thinking of getting the T1i before heading up to Alaska this summer. My husband and I both plan on taking a lot of photographs and currently have the 50D and an XT. I handled the T1i today in our local camera shop, and it had a good feel to it. I'm looking forward to informal reviews from folks who are buying the t1i. (Thank you, erock901, for sharing your first impressions.) It will help us decide what to do....

Thanks.

It's not that bad of a camera considering all of the gripes most have with it, at least it's not bad for what I do anyway. I think nature and sports photographers would have more difficulty, but it wouldn't be utterly impossible to use. I have to admit I've also been spoiled by the wheel dial, sturdy big body, and whatever else the XXD and XD series has to offer even if I've only borrowed and rented them. But after borrowing the T1i from one of my friends, it convinced me that it was a little better than what people might expect it to be. Sure, it's a consumer level camera. But who taught you that? Canon? I've seen people do amazing things with equipment that are socially branded as inadequate. I did fashion shoots with an XSi for a good 5 months or so, and it never really let me down in the studio or when I used it for small jpegs in the nightclubs. I expected no less from the T1i, but I still feel as if there is more. The video I don't need, but considering it was the same price as the XSi when it first came out it's like hey, why not? Convergence is not always bad. Just think about what kind of fuss people made when people first introduced listening to music in your car, or using your phone to check e-mail when you couldn't do it before. It'll blend into our lifestyle anyway, it's inevitable. Anyways, after a day of using my friend's T1i and inviting a couple of model and makeup friends over, here are my test results.

These are shot with my friend's 18-55 IS kit lens (I wanted to test her lens too, hehe)

Hello all,

I had a chance to play with the T1i as well and to me it appears to be a 'bridge' camera. Yes, it is based on the Rebel line but I found it to be ok. While it doesn't have the micro adjustment and speed of the 50D it does have the advanced flash control menu of the 40, 50 and 1D3 - including the wireless ettl features. Not bad for a Rebel, I will try to wait till the dust settles and consider it an everyday snapper when I don't feel like taking the 1D3 out.

Peace
Mark

thinking the T1 may be a good camera for my wife to use, and me as a weekend snapper too. Won't get rid of my 40D though- love that workhorse.

Wow, I can't wait to see more sample shots from the T1i! Those ISO3200 look impressive, definatly better then my 30D.

I don't think I would buy one though, because I don't need video and I like the larger size and better controls of the xxD. Now I'm getting anxious to see what the 60D (or whatever they might call it) will be like! Hopefully a step up in ISO performance and not just a 50D with video...

Picked mine up yesterday. Very impressed so far.

I'm shooting a show on Thursday, will post some of the results!

I'm borrowing it again for work in a couple of days, Yelp doesn't want me to shoot 35mm lol. I'll post some of the event photos this week from it. I'll probably be shooting at higher ISOs so people can see how good they are for indoor events.

The Rebel series can be used by serious amateurs who prefer a small, light camera over a bulkier, heavier one. They are capable of the same image quality as the XXD series. The video features of the T1i can be used by serious videographers as well, but not for the novice who wants to capture quick home movies of their kids.

All of these cameras can be used well to capture beautiful photos, or used badly to capture mediocre ones, depending on the skill of the photographer.