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1st Attempt at Birding w/the 5D

 
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Mar 27, 2009 00:31 |  #1

hello. just got my 5D yesterday and got a chance to take the 70-200 out to the lake for some birding.

all C&C welcome....

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Mar 27, 2009 00:54 |  #2

Interesting enough shots but the 70-200 just isn't long enough for bird shots IMO. I love mine but get quite frustrated at its lack of reach. But I didn't buy it for birds...

At least with the 5D you can crop a bit before losing too much quality.


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Mar 27, 2009 01:06 |  #3

Titus213 wrote in post #7607976 (external link)
Interesting enough shots but the 70-200 just isn't long enough for bird shots IMO. I love mine but get quite frustrated at its lack of reach. But I didn't buy it for birds...

At least with the 5D you can crop a bit before losing too much quality.

i completely agree. i found that out when i was shooting, def not long enough.

this was my first time shooting birds and my 70-200 was not purchased for this reason.

and yes, these are cropped images.


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Mar 27, 2009 03:04 |  #4
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Tell those guys to come back up here, they're missed.


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Mar 27, 2009 05:36 as a reply to  @ Karl Johnston's post |  #5

My trick to birding is to use spot metering, you want that critter's exposure to be correct, background is of little concern.

And...your lens isn't long enough. :lol:


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Mar 27, 2009 08:59 |  #6

I like #4. I am not a birder though *LOL*
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Mar 27, 2009 12:52 |  #7

thanks, i fully understand i don't have the "proper" equipment for birding....but it seem right at the time.lol

i will try spot metering, makes plenty of sense - thanks!


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Mar 27, 2009 14:16 |  #8
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Bull****, you have excellent equipment for birding. Don't listen to those snobby 1D mark III users with their 10 FPS and 6500 $ lenses.

Just gotta work a little bit harder with what you have and adapt it to your needs.

5D and the 70-200 is an excellent combo; try getting closer. Try not to zoom in all the way, you lose 30% more detail than you would if you kept it below 150 and above 100. Try to work in that range; 135 mm is the sharpest. Try using a low f number when you want to isolate detail, but remember that a thin DOF like 2.8 will result in blurry images with chromatic aberration, for the most part. 5.6 is where that lens shines. 8 is absolute sharpest and if you use ISO 200 you can get pretty fast speeds in mid-day of about 1/640 of a second or so; ideal for stopping pelican motion.


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Mar 27, 2009 14:16 |  #9

I do enjoy the 70-200 for backyard birding. You can get a lot closer which is your other option. Stealth....sneak up on the critters.

It's all fun.:lol:


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Mar 27, 2009 14:20 |  #10

Karl Johnston wrote in post #7611328 (external link)
Bull****, you have excellent equipment for birding. Don't listen to those snobby 1D mark III users with their 10 FPS and 6500 $ lenses.

Just gotta work a little bit harder with what you have and adapt it to your needs.

thanks for the words of encouragement! i intend to make my equipment work for me.

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I do enjoy the 70-200 for backyard birding. You can get a lot closer which is your other option. Stealth....sneak up on the critters.

It's all fun.:lol:

ain't that the truth! when i shot those pix above, i got close and was a bit scared they were gonna come attack me!lol

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Mar 27, 2009 15:43 |  #11

Very nice shots for your first attempt. You might want to procure a 1.4x in the future. It works great with my 70-200mm. I use manual exposure for BIF shots which means setting the exposure on a mid-tone in the light you will be shooting the birds in. Then adjust if the light changes. This will keep the birds from being a dark silohuette against light backgrounds such as the sky.


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Mar 27, 2009 15:53 |  #12

thanks John. yeah, i've started to lookinto the tc 1.4x.


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Mar 28, 2009 21:05 |  #13

MacFly, the 70-200mm can work really well under the right circumstances. Here's a few shots from last weekend with that lens with a 1.4x on a 40d. Your 5D would have worked fine as well.

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Mar 29, 2009 02:02 |  #14

highcountry wrote in post #7619684 (external link)
MacFly, the 70-200mm can work really well under the right circumstances. Here's a few shots from last weekend with that lens with a 1.4x on a 40d. Your 5D would have worked fine as well.

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those are awesome. can you briefly give me the settings you shot with?!


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Mar 29, 2009 11:05 |  #15

Some of the pictures have more space in front of the flying birds, but others do not. Centered flying birds do not look as good as when there is space in front of them.
Good shots taken during last week. Sharp enough to see the details in the feathers.


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