new 70-200 AF issues??

Good point.

ed rader wrote in post #7613831
it's hair .

ed rader

lol

pman67 wrote in post #7613839
To the OP:

I only see you mention once the distance you were shooting at, and then you say 6 feet.

Have you checked the focus limiter on the 70-200? I'm not sure about the 2.8 version, but on my f4 version the min. focusing distance is either 1.3 meters or 3 meters.

Even if you have the switch at the 1.3 setting, is it possible that you were actually inside the lens' minimum focusing distance?

that was my suspicion too...but without crops we're just guessing here .

ed rader

This is of coarse shrunk quiet a bit but I think you can still tell, The AF point is quare on her nose
Shot settings are as follows,
Iso 320
TV 160
AV 3.2
Focal Lenth 200
Was spot metering the shots
Yes I now I had it set to one shot on the af but I still missed a bunch even after I changed it. However my niece was standing still and this isn't motion blur to me.
Edit
She was about 25 feet away but I am sure you guys can kinda guess distance buy the size of the subject.

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ed rader wrote in post #7613879
that was my suspicion too...but without crops we're just guessing here .

ed rader

Too true Ed!

I couldn't get anything to focus so yes I turned on the pop up, I for sure didn't think I would need it after droppin 1700.00 on this lens. I did not get one shot of my niece all day. I was bumbed.

iso 320
av 105
tv 100
Again she wasn't even moving af point was on her left cheek. Also again doesn't look like motion blur to me guys.

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I think you've got issues other than a defective lens. Your second shot is suffering from sever camera shake, and it looks even worse because of the flash freezing part of the image, then the shake affecting the ambient exposure.

Did you have IS on, and did you give it literally 1-2 seconds to settle before you tripped the shutter?

Here would be an example when I was lucky enough to have one in focus. I did sharpen this a bit in DPP, no other editing. Just a tad on the soft side but thats ok I was shooting with a 3.2 aperture.

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Um I can't say I was counting to settle the IS but come on there is no way everyone that has this lens counts one Mississippi two Mississippi then takes a shot. Everyone recommended this lens for low light ACTION. Am I missing something here?

Maybe I do need some schooling on how to use a L series lens, I thought it would be at least as fast as a non L series, and could focus in at least the same lighting conditions. Hey if the bad shots are my fault Ill get better but waiting 1 to 2 minutes for it to focus in low light can't be my fault,....... can it?

DDCSD wrote in post #7613993
I think you've got issues other than a defective lens. Your second shot is suffering from sever camera shake, and it looks even worse because of the flash freezing part of the image, then the shake affecting the ambient exposure.

Did you have IS on, and did you give it literally 1-2 seconds to settle before you tripped the shutter?

I was squatted down back against wall, left elbow planted on my thigh holding lens firmly, and holding my breath with a shutter speed of 100 using a L series lens with built in IS TURNED ON lol
Do i feel I should lose a shoot that looked that bad with the subject less then 15 feet away? DEF NOT!! I would have got the shoot with my 17-85IS for sure. ISO would have been a little higher but I would have the shot.
I am not trying to be difficult I just need help. That was a lot of money to spend to start losing shots. I didn't lose shots before, I just couldn't shoot in lower lit situations.
Please help maybe offer a staged scenario that I can try something to tell if I have a real issue with this lens or not anything lol

BigAlz1 wrote in post #7614053
Um I can't say I was counting to settle the IS but come on there is no way everyone that has this lens counts one Mississippi two Mississippi then takes a shot. Everyone recommended this lens for low light ACTION. Am I missing something here?

Action=turn IS off. If you have the IS on, you need to let it settle and not be moving the lens around to track things )especially at low shutter speeds. If you're not going to let it settle, turn it off. It is doing more harm than good.

Action would also mean that you need higher shutter speeds than 1/100s and 1/160s. The first shot you posted it terribly out of focus, but it is many feet out of focus. I just have a hard time believing that the lens is that messed up. It could be, but I doubt it. You already said that you were in one-shot focus, so it may have caught something that walked past you.

If you are within the minimum focusing distance, it doesn't matter what lens you are using, it ain't going to focus.

BigAlz1 wrote in post #7614104
I was squatted down back against wall, left elbow planted on my thigh holding lens firmly, and holding my breath with a shutter speed of 100 using a L series lens with built in IS TURNED ON lol
Do i feel I should lose a shoot that looked that bad with the subject less then 15 feet away? DEF NOT!! I would have got the shoot with my 17-85IS for sure. ISO would have been a little higher but I would have the shot.
I am not trying to be difficult I just need help. That was a lot of money to spend to start losing shots. I didn't lose shots before, I just couldn't shoot in lower lit situations.
Please help maybe offer a staged scenario that I can try something to tell if I have a real issue with this lens or not anything lol

Here is what happened with the second shot.


You left your camera set up to expose the ambient light properly (or very close to it). You also have the flash set to fire. The flash was also set up to properly expose the image. You pushed down the shutter button. The lens' IS engaged. The shutter opened as the flash fired. The IS still hasn't gotten settled. The shutter is now closed.

You now have two exposures. One of them (the flash exposure) would be reasonably sharp, except that it has the shake-ridden ambient exposure layed on top of it. It is impossible to know what happened because you are looking at two exposures in the same image.

There very well may be something wrong with the lens, but it is impossible to tell with what you have posted.

If you want to test it. Turn the IS off, point it at random things in your house (with the lights on) and see if it is able to focus. Make sure that these object are far enough away that they are not within the lens' minimum focusing distance. Make sure that the focus limiting switch is set to 1.5-infinity. Set your ISO to 1600 and put it in AV mode and f/2.8. Take some photos.

And put the camera on a tripod to eliminate any hand shake and, gently press the shutter so as not to induce any camera shake, whatsoever.

Thank you for your thoughts I don't care to get beet up as long as I get to the bottom of it. I am still at a loss on how an L series lens needs time to "settle" and I have never had anything like that happen and all my lenses so far have had IS. But ill take it for what it is and try and count before taking my shots.
I can't stress enough that I WAS within focusing distance for this lens. It would have never focus even once if I wasn't. I found that out when I was getting close ups outside when the lens came in. I was say 8' from the subject and i did have the focusing switch set right, again it never would focus even one had I not had it set right.

I will play with it some more and do some test shots.
I found some shoots where the AI focus AF was enabled on the camera and the shoots are as bad as those above.

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BigAlz1 wrote in post #7614235
I can't stress enough that I WAS within focusing distance for this lens. It would have never focus even once if I wasn't. I found that out when I was getting close ups outside when the lens came in. I was say 8' from the subject and i did have the focusing switch set right, again it never would focus even one had I not had it set right.

I will play with it some more and do some test shots.
I found some shoots where the AI focus AF was enabled on the camera and the shoots are as bad as those above.

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That's not completely true. If you are at the edge of the MFD, it will focus once but it, of course, will be off. My 70-200 f4 IS does this.