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Mar 29, 2009 03:38 |  #1

Hi there,

I am seriously thinking of starting to do more and more structured food fotography, until now I have been learning and learning and I think in order to justify me upgrading equipment in the future I will have to make it at least pay partly for itself.

Would stock agencies be a good start for me?

I have made a selection on flickr now (not all big sizes on flickr etc, but that will come)

If you look at this set: http://www.flickr.com …a/sets/72157615​923140087/ (external link)

do you think stock agencies would be interested in me signing up and submitting?

and what could I expect or should or should not expect from it?

Thanks for your time!

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Mar 29, 2009 13:25 |  #2

Do you mean micro stock sites like istock? They're not too difficult to get into...as for what to expect it depends - a lot say disappointment, others say little money, others say they do well. There's a bunch of threads on here about those sites.


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Mar 29, 2009 18:06 as a reply to  @ MJPhotos24's post |  #3

macobee if you want to try microstock here are a few links. Seeing the food shots you've posted I already thought you were selling them. Food does pretty good on these sites. Microstock is something some people love and others hate so don't listen to everyone, there's money to be made.

ShutterStock (external link)
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fotolia (external link)
ImageCatalog (external link)
Dreamstime (external link)


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Mar 29, 2009 21:52 |  #4

thanks guys i will start to look into that tonight


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Mar 30, 2009 12:25 |  #5

Try Alamy, myLoupe, PhotographersDirect, or any of the other traditional stocks (that pay you what you're worth) before you tarnish yourself with microstock. Many reputable traditional agencies won't even consider your application, regardless of how great your work is, if you're working with microstock.


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Mar 30, 2009 22:03 |  #6

So I have made a start with shutter stock and they rejected 8 out of 10 images, so refused me entry and I can try again in 30 days time.....

Wow so I got a bit of a slap in the face today


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Mar 31, 2009 10:17 |  #7

Why did they reject? Subject matter? Technical qualities?


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Mar 31, 2009 11:47 |  #8

I dont know if this works but I am trying to copy and paste their email with comments and images:
Thank you for your submission to Shutterstock.

In order for Shutterstock to maintain the high standard of our photography collection, new submitters must receive approval on at least seven (7) of their first ten (10) images to continue uploading. Unfortunately, while some of the images you submitted may meet our guidelines, we are unable to approve the requisite number and have temporarily disabled the uploading function on your account. This decision was based on concerns about quality, composition, lighting, or other features of your initial batch of images and we have listed the reasons below.

We invite you to resubmit in 30 days. In the meantime, you can still post banners, earn money from referring photographers, and participate in our forum discussions. Please do not create more than one account; doing so will result in permanent suspension.

Thank you for your interest in Shutterstock. We look forward to seeing you again in 30 days!

Shutterstock Referral Program:
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Noise--Noise, film grain, over-sharpening, or artifacts at full size.
Focus--Your image is not in focus or focus is not located where we feel it works best.
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Composition--Limited commercial value due to framing, cropping, and/or composition.
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Mar 31, 2009 17:12 as a reply to  @ macobee's post |  #9

Check out the shutterstock forums. You can post some of the rejected pics there and get feedback on them. Also post other shots there for feedback. There is a little bit of a learning curve and each site you go with has there own criteria.


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Mar 31, 2009 17:15 as a reply to  @ Eagle's post |  #10

Also search their site for food shots and see what others have done.


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Mar 31, 2009 18:00 |  #11

I once sent in a few flower shots I thought were good, and my stuff was rejected. I just don't have the knowledge of a real pro so I don't bother submitting anything to stock photo sites anymore.


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Mar 31, 2009 21:24 |  #12

Ive had pretty decent luck with iStock... semi-difficult to get images one, but if you get a big seller, its very profitable.

iStock only requires 3 sample images..


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Apr 01, 2009 06:07 |  #13

Eagle, thanks fopr the tips, will do so!

Form, can understand but i have this drive in me and it wont stop, i want to go forward with this hobby and improve myself, so in fact its good the critique they gave me pushed me further nmow

Bwilking, will investigate them too.

I also got an email today from a company called stockfood based in germany saying they like my images and seen a lot of interesting stuff, they want me to sign up but they only accept exclusive, and I am not sure whether that is a good way to go for me. anyone any experience with them?

Marco


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Apr 03, 2009 08:53 |  #14

would any of you consider going exclusive with a stock agency, or better not?


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Apr 03, 2009 10:50 |  #15

I've been selling images on 4 microstock sites (including Shutterstock and iStock) for the past few years.

I signed up on these sites mainly for fun, with zero intention of shooting photos strictly to sell. Basically, if I'm out taking photos for myself, and I think that some of them might sell, I'll upload them. I'm VERY casual about submitting photos - I only have about 200 photos for sale on each site, and I started 2-3 years ago.


Here is what I've learned:

1) If you're like me, you're not going to get rich doing this. However, I DO believe that it is possible to make a decent supplemental income with microstock, if you're willing to shoot and submit a large quantity of quality photos. For myself, with only about 200 images submitted over the past few years, I have been able to pay for a good deal of my gear with microstock income.

2) If you're out shooting images anyway, it isn't much work to submit some of your best ones. All of the stock sites will read the IPTC data directly from your jpegs, so the only extra "work" you need to do is add a title & some keywords to your images in Photoshop. I spend under a minute per image adding this info. I consider the small time investment of submitting my images worth the return.

3) Most microstock sites will reject nearly everything if your images have even a hint of noise in them. Either get familiar with something like NeatImage to clean them up, or don't both submitting noisy images.

4) I shoot mainly nature & wildlife pics. I can tell you that for the most part, nature pics (especially flowers) do not sell - everyone has a million of these. Wildlife is a bit better, and I do have a few decent sellers of animals. Pictures of people (assuming that they aren't snapshots, and you can get signed releases) seem to do the best.

5) Shutterstock and iStockphoto sell the most for me. They also seem to be the pickiest about what images they will accept.

6) You don't need to be a pro to get your images accepted (I'm certainly not!). I was fortunate enough to have my initial application accepted at all 4 sites, but only barely at Shutterstock (they "rejected" 3 of my 10 images, which is the maximum before they reject your application). If you get rejected, post some of your rejections in the forums at that site (with 100% crops) to get some friendly feedback on what to fix when you submit next time.


You can see an example of some of the stuff I shoot here: http://billkennedy.smu​gmug.com (external link)

Everything on my smugmug site was taken with a Canon 20D. The zoo pics were mostly with the 100-400L, and the landscapes were mostly with the 17-40L.

For those that are curious, my best-selling microstock image is the orange seahorse in my "aquariums" gallery. I've made about $500 on that image alone, which is far more than my #2 image. It's strange what sells.


Hope that's helpful to anyone considering microstock.




  
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