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Mar 30, 2009 17:02 |  #16

tkbslc wrote in post #7631561 (external link)
You are going to get better AF and burst, and that is essentially it. So if that would make your camera $400 more enjoyable, then upgrade. High ISO on the XS is really good, the 40D is not going to be noticeably better - especially if you think 400 is the limit now. The only way to get noticeably better than the XS at 800/1600 is to get a 5D.

Really & still shoot sports? :confused: It was to my understanding from lurking on the subject of the 5D and the 5dmkII sports was not its strong point.


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Mar 30, 2009 17:32 |  #17

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That doesn't make sense at all considering I had no complaints about the screen on my 30D. Canon increased the size of the screen of the 40D without increasing the amount of pixels. It seems they finally got the hint that it sucked finally started addressing the issue with the new models with the 3.0" screen to 922,000 pixels which look just as good (actually better) than the 2.5" screens with 240,000 pixels.

The 40D lcd seemed useless to check sharpness or most everything imo. The newer 3.0" screens with 922,000 pixels are great...I'm assuming the 50D has one...

I'm not disputing the fact that the new screens look better, they do.

But the pixel count of the 3" lcd on the 40D is NOT the reason why it's useless for checking sharpness and noise; it's caused by the camera not displaying a full resolution image so as you zoom into the image you end up passing 100% size (of the low res image) and start enlarging it causing it to go very soft.

Now I suck at maths so I'm sure someone can work this out properly but (I've guestimated it)...

Those 240,000 pixels give you something around a 346 * 232 pixel image (about 80,000 pixels * RGB) which works out at around 138ppi.

LCD computer monitors generally range from 67 to 130 ppi so the 40D's 3" LCD is higher resolution (in ppi terms) than most peoples computer screens.


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Mar 30, 2009 17:35 |  #18

You have some wonderful shots there and a 40D can only help to improve the chance of capturing some of the action shots. It is a great camera!


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Mar 30, 2009 17:50 |  #19

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You are going to get better AF and burst, and that is essentially it. So if that would make your camera $400 more enjoyable, then upgrade. High ISO on the XS is really good, the 40D is not going to be noticeably better - especially if you think 400 is the limit now. The only way to get noticeably better than the XS at 800/1600 is to get a 5D.


Really & still shoot sports? :confused: It was to my understanding from lurking on the subject of the 5D and the 5dmkII sports was not its strong point.

I really only meant 5D for the high-iso, for action AF, the 40/50D will be better. Sorry if that was unclear.


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Mar 30, 2009 18:53 |  #20

tkbslc wrote in post #7631561 (external link)
You are going to get better AF and burst, and that is essentially it. So if that would make your camera $400 more enjoyable, then upgrade. High ISO on the XS is really good, the 40D is not going to be noticeably better - especially if you think 400 is the limit now. The only way to get noticeably better than the XS at 800/1600 is to get a 5D.

On top of the AF and frame rate, magnesium alloy body, larger and brighter 0.95x pentaprism VF (as opposed to 0.81x pentamirror), better ergonomics with control dial, more responsive, longer shutter life expectancy, 1/8000 shutter speed.

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Mar 30, 2009 19:28 |  #21

My friend has an XSi and it is a great camera. I use a 40D and I cannot tell any difference in the image quality between the two cameras but I do prefer my 40D because of many more features allow the camera to be more versatile.


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Mar 30, 2009 19:31 |  #22

Do it. Sounds like the FPS will be a significant benefit to you. There is absolutely no "con" in making the switch, unless lightening your wallet counts :D




  
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Mar 30, 2009 19:55 |  #23

What about a 50d? Would there be anything significant that I'd miss in getting the 40 instead of the 50?

god damnit I hate these decisions.


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Mar 30, 2009 20:24 |  #24

mikekelley wrote in post #7632601 (external link)
What about a 50d? Would there be anything significant that I'd miss in getting the 40 instead of the 50?

god damnit I hate these decisions.

Sharper VGA LCD, mircro adjustment, ~50% increased in resolution, native ISO 3200 and HDMI output.




  
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Mar 30, 2009 20:30 as a reply to  @ post 7631561 |  #25

i recentely just went from Canon 40D to a Nikon D300 i am a very happy camper...

I enjoyed the 40D alot, I'll say get the 40D, the only thing i hated about the 40D was the LCD, if you can afford the extra change get the 50D instead, the LCD on the 50 is AWESOME!

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My reasons for the upgrade:
1. Image Quality
2. High Level ISO
3. 8 FPS (With Grip)
4. 51 Point Tracking With 3D Tracking for Sports
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6. Ergonomically speaking, one of the best cameras i have ever had!

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Mar 30, 2009 20:33 |  #26

you already have a perfectly good camera. whats the point in spending more money for something you have already? (good enough? no?)

think of all the other things you could do with that money. bills, taxes, food, shelter, save for a rainy day. (im tired of this, its a nice camera. if you want it buy it :))


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Mar 30, 2009 20:45 |  #27

Hi, I switched from a XTi to a 40D and I am really glad I did. The 40D's controls seem easier and more logical to me which helps me as a relative new guy make more adjustments easier. Go for it! Mike




  
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Mar 30, 2009 20:52 as a reply to  @ olcoach's post |  #28

OK. Don't buy the 40D. Buy the 5D2 instead.


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Mar 30, 2009 21:20 as a reply to  @ Zethar's post |  #29

go for the 40D!There are some great deals out there right now, chances are you'll want to upgrade eventually...so might as well try to sell the XS while it still has some value and grab a 40D.




  
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Mar 30, 2009 22:03 |  #30

Go for it, faster fps, highlight tone priority etc etc
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