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Sunset photo, not like I like... Help??

 
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Mar 30, 2009 19:44 |  #1

Hey guys, well just a little while ago I walked upstairs only to notice the blueness of the sky outside as the sun was setting. I quickly ran upstairs, changed some setting, and ran outside to catch a photo. This is the result:

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Well that brings me to my next topic.. I really don't think it is that good and I think it is pretty blurry. I did do some noise reduction so that helped a little bit but if you guys could help me with some setting/tips on taking great sunsets that would be great!

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F/4.5
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ISO 1600
JPEG (probably a big reason)
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Anything that I did wrong? I want to know mainly how to get rid of the blurriness as I can mess with the settings and whatnot. Just help me out, thanks!

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Mar 31, 2009 04:33 |  #2

This is more of a dusk shot than sunset as there is no hint of sun in the shot. However, that's not answering the question! :D

Your settings need to change for better results.

Rule number 1 when it is this dark is to use a tripod with a shutter release cable or self timer - this is to reduce the amound of camera shake and therefore reduces blurring.

Next is to get a higher Aperture value - somewhere between f/8 - f/16 for a greater depth of field.

Now, you also need to reduce your ISO. You don't need a fast shutter speed because you have your camera mounted on a tripod and there are no moving objects in your shot. Drop your ISO all the way down to 100. At 1600 ISO you are almost guaranteed to get noise, which shows in your shot. Noise reduction software helps get rid of noise but you also sacrifice detail and sharpness so try not to use it if you can.

Shooting in RAW is also good for bringing out more detail and colour when processing so try to use that too.

You'll have to experiment with different shutter speeds as these we cannot tell you ;)

See how it goes and show us what you get. Good luck!


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Mar 31, 2009 06:54 |  #3

Cole_Schmitt,
Well for one you are wrong!
Jpeg is not probably a big reason, the one who set the camera is. As the photo is extremely under exposed!

Obviously a much smaller aperture would help have more in focus. Also like michaelgreen78 said a much longer exposure with a tripod and shutter release cable or set on timer with a much lower ISO would give better results.

Just my opinion of course ;)


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Apr 01, 2009 18:24 |  #4

Tripod. That's the key word here. You needed a good one, which would open the door to making the other revisions suggested, including

- lower ISO
- smaller aperture
- higher exposure

Images need enough exposure to provide a range of values. This one is probably not much different in terms of conditions than yours, but there are some back-lit clouds on the horizon that are bright highlights.

IMAGE: http://www.rickdenney.com/images/tree_against_sunset_II_lores.jpg

This was shot on film and I don't recall the exposure, but it was something like a 1 second at f/11, if I had to guess from memory.

Sometimes, you have to let the shadows go black. This was shot on Velvia in an Elan II using a 14mm prime:

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Apr 02, 2009 23:58 as a reply to  @ rdenney's post |  #5

tripod, tripod, tripod.

1. Seeing as you didn't mention you had a tripod, handholding a lens with 1/4th shutter speed is IMPOSSIBLE to get in focus shots.
2. ISO 1600, and a shutter speed of 1/4th, it must of been extremely dark, this is where a tripod and remote release come into play.
3. Use an aperture of F/8 to F/16 as mentioned already as this will get more in focus.

The main reason your photo looks dull is because of camera shake (low shutter speed) and it is severely underexposed.

Landscape rule #1: Tripod & remote release
Landscape rule #2: ISO 100 :D

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Apr 12, 2009 20:05 |  #6

I did use a tripod.
I figured out my problem was that I was using a low aperture but I now know that using somewhere around f/11 will allow me to keep the whole picture on focus. Thanks guys!


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