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Mar 30, 2009 20:23 |  #1

I took some shots for my girlfriend and her friends' show in Philadelphia over the weekend. Had alot of fun shooting some of these are the better of my dance shots. Im getting better but I still have issues focusing... Any advice on that? But here is 8 of them. I took 100+ but I liked these the best.
Im shooting 30+ feet away with my 50-150 f2.8 sigma.

**I re-loaded the pictures they should have EXIF, some have changed**

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5.(The girlfriend is the blonde in the front middle)
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Mar 31, 2009 09:30 |  #2

They're all a little dark. I like 6 & 7 ... six even with the cut off people seems to work. The last would be better if you hadn't clipped her toe and again a bit more light. EXIF would be nice.


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Mar 31, 2009 16:59 |  #3

Yea, I know I try to get the right exposure but its tough, and I don't know if I want to bump it up after the fact. Can anyone help me though, I need pointers on getting better focus... Shooting 50-150 f2.8 usually at 2.8 iso ranges through 800-1000 but I cant seem to ever get perfectly clear shots. BTW Im not sure why my exif isn't showing up.


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Mar 31, 2009 17:03 |  #4

If you want that kind of help you will have to include EXIF data with the images rather than stripping it out. But if the light isn't there you can't do much. Perhaps get a faster lens such as 50mm f/1.4.


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Mar 31, 2009 19:05 |  #5

I'm not sure where my exif went :-( I guess ill re-upload them maybe lightroom stripped it...


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Mar 31, 2009 19:13 |  #6

MrMorrill wrote in post #7639342 (external link)
I don't know if I want to bump it up after the fact.

Why not? :confused:
If the image ends up looking better, I have no hesitation whatsoever...


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Mar 31, 2009 19:34 |  #7

Rene, I have found that sometimes when I bring up the exposure the photo's grain shows much more. Ok question for you all, When i upload from flickr i lose my EXIF but I can view the data in my "Original" but not any other size. Any suggestions?


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Mar 31, 2009 21:56 |  #8

Added new photos with EXIF, and changed two.. Heres anotherone that showed alot of emotion i liked from a rehersal.

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Apr 01, 2009 06:37 |  #9

Flickr strips EXIF from everything except the "original" view.

For shots of stage shows, I would suggest that you shoot at the highest ISO you can - it's easier to ameliorate the effects of noise than it is to reduce motion blur.

My process is:

* shoot RAW
* Lightroom to straighten, crop and colour and exposure adjust. Export as TIFF
* NeatImage with my own presets to reduce noise. Export as TIFF
* A script in Paint Shop Pro to resize and sharpen. Export as JPG

The results are something like:

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which was taken on a very dark stage.

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Apr 01, 2009 15:48 |  #10

I usually shoot 1000+ iso to deal with the blur, but its not the blur that im worried about it just seems as if some shots arn't in focus at all but when i shoot they seem in focus.


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Apr 02, 2009 06:02 |  #11

MrMorrill wrote in post #7646350 (external link)
but when i shoot they seem in focus.

How do you mean? Through the viewfinder?
In that case, you must have better eyes then me: I can't manual focus in situations like this :lol:

What you posted here seems okay sharpness wise, but that's hard to tell for sure on this size...
It's possible for the AF to pick just a different spot than what you intended (let's say: hair instead of eye) or for a bit of camera shake / motion blur to give a less sharp shot. And off course it's possible for a lens / camera to misfocus a bit.


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Apr 02, 2009 10:53 |  #12

Well, im not sure what settings to shoot my focusing on.


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Apr 02, 2009 12:04 |  #13

MrMorrill wrote in post #7651832 (external link)
Well, im not sure what settings to shoot my focusing on.

Okay. You have officially lost me :p

Care to try explain in simple terms what you're trying to say / do?


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Apr 02, 2009 16:53 |  #14

I think that a little post-processing on these pictures might work wonders. Since you have Image Editing enabled, I have taken the liberty of giving it a try. This is obviously just with [I]I[/i would do, you are entirely free to say that you think what I've done is rubbish :)

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IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/3408053144_887bfc2b98_o.jpg
Black is only interesting if there's a contrast. Here I've boosted the brightness a lot, and taken out some of the red so that white looks like white, and skin looks like skin. Also, I've straightened and cropped a bit. To me, much more dramatic.

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IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3407246059_aeba0afaf4_o.jpg
Just a crop here. It's the people we want to see, get rid of the un-necessary black space.

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IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3314/3408053312_e5d113462c_o.jpg
Again, crop in on what matters, fix the colours and brightness as in #1. I'd love to get closer in still; it's what the people are doing that matters and for this kind of picture they've got to fill the frame

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IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/3407246199_3b80f5f589_o.jpg
Again, it's about the people - get rid of the dead space

5, 6 and 7
Sorry, they'd be in my discard pile. #5 is just a plain ugly moment. Girls - dancers especially - look good when they are stretching. When compressed, they look fat and ungainly. And I am absolutely certain that these dancers are neither. The baggy vest top doesn't help either. The other two pictures just... don't work. For me, at least.

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IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3407246295_b1aab1dac8_o.jpg
I've tried to reduce the red and increase the contrast. If you'd given me more of the original picture I'd have cropped it, but I couldn't get a 3:2 crop that worked. However, I tried to increase the constrast in the top half of the histogram, to brighten the clothes and the skin, while making the lower half darker, blending into the dark background. I am seeing this girl as being a "baddie"...

For me, post processing is an essential part of stage photography. You only get one shot at it, and things are moving quickly. Taking the pictures into Photoshop and working with them can make a huge difference.

I hope you like the small changes I've made to your pictures; to me they make the pictures more interesting and exciting. But of course you may not agree!

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Apr 02, 2009 17:10 |  #15

Real nice conversions Alan...


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