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Oh Geez, is this a scam? Help please.

 
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Mar 30, 2009 20:30 |  #1

All good.


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Mar 30, 2009 20:34 |  #2

i'd contact ebay and/or paypal...this is a scam...run, run fast...




  
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Mar 30, 2009 20:34 |  #3

Looks like a scam. I'd report this to eBay and let them handle it.


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Mar 30, 2009 20:34 |  #4

jbrown7815 wrote in post #7632831 (external link)
Well I just won this 17-55mm 2.8 IS lens on Ebay. I did the normal bidding, and won it for $825.
http://cgi.ebay.com …EWNX:IT&item=20​0323788929 (external link)

About 25 mins later I get this email from the "seller" over Ebay, saying the following:



No way I'm using Western Union...

How can I fix this so I don't get in trouble on Ebay? :confused:


Sorry but unfortunately, it's a scam.


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Mar 30, 2009 20:35 |  #5

Also as I read more I wonder if this is from the real seller.

The emails I got from them look like they are from ebay, but say they are signed, etc by

"midphase.com"


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Mar 30, 2009 20:37 |  #6

I'm looking now, and I got three emails all at same time. One from "seller", one from "paypal" and another from "ebay"


It appears this scam is very well thought out, and automatically makes these emails.

But when I look closely, the emails are all signed by another hosting website called midphase.com

If I go on Ebay I see nothing about messages, so it appears I got a legit deal, just someone knows how to get all the info automatically and make scam emails.


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Mar 30, 2009 20:39 |  #7

jbrown7815 wrote in post #7632831 (external link)
Well I just won this 17-55mm 2.8 IS lens on Ebay. I did the normal bidding, and won it for $825.
http://cgi.ebay.com …EWNX:IT&item=20​0323788929 (external link)

About 25 mins later I get this email from the "seller" over *email*, saying the following:



No way I'm using Western Union...

How can I fix this so I don't get in trouble on Ebay? :confused:

Report this as a scam to eBay and run like hell.

Do NOT send any funds by any means to anyone associated with this auction, er scam.




  
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Mar 30, 2009 20:42 |  #8

Smelling fishy to me, real fishy..


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Mar 30, 2009 20:45 |  #9

First that request would be a violation of the new rules on eBay. Electronic payments ONLY, unless the buyer requests to pay other than via eBay allowed electronic means.

This could also be a hacked computer where some 3rd party has sent you an email trying to scam your cash. I would not only report this to ebay, don't forget to forward the email and include the full header (that part is very important as they can't determine anything w/o that actual email header). You can report via the webforms or just use SPOOF@EBAY.COM (external link). They will get back to you. I would report both way, via webform and the spoof email. I would also contact the seller via eBay's contact system to confirm the email. The seller might not even be aware.

Come to think about it, this is most likely a hijacked eBay account and the lens does not even exist. So, reporting it to eBay is the best approach.


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Mar 30, 2009 20:47 |  #10

I'm going to wait for seller to reply back to a question i sent over Ebay, as far as I can tell this scammer sent nothhing from ebay, all over actual email.

Thank you breck, will do that


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Mar 30, 2009 20:52 |  #11

cool, hope it ends up legit and the seller just has an issue on their computer that needs fixing. Glad you contacted the seller via ebay, that is the best option.

For a 3rd party to get access to your email addy they would have to either have hijacked the seller account and/or the sellers computer or email server where then can intercept the end-of-auction email from eBay. before eBay began masking the bidder ID's for higher priced items this used to happen...A LOT...now it can still happen but only via the situations I mentioned.

Hope it all works out good in the end. At least you don't have to worry about a neg in the mean time. ;)

EDIT: Ummmm, I just thought of a worse possibility...have you checked YOUR COMPUTER for spyware/scumware lately? It is possible your system has the hack...I would check that and then if you do find something, change ALL your passwords. And to really protect your PayPal account I really suggest those who have a PP account use the PayPal Security Key, it is worth the $5:

https://www.paypal.com …PayPalSecurityK​ey-outside (external link)


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Mar 30, 2009 20:54 |  #12

definitely a scam.


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Mar 30, 2009 21:00 |  #13

brecklundin wrote in post #7633000 (external link)
cool, hope it ends up legit and the seller just has an issue on their computer that needs fixing. Glad you contacted the seller via ebay, that is the best option.

For a 3rd party to get access to your email addy they would have to either have hijacked the seller account and/or the sellers computer or email server where then can intercept the end-of-auction email from eBay. before eBay began masking the bidder ID's for higher priced items this used to happen...A LOT...now it can still happen but only via the situations I mentioned.

Hope it all works out good in the end. At least you don't have to worry about a neg in the mean time. ;)

EDIT: Ummmm, I just thought of a worse possibility...have you checked YOUR COMPUTER for spyware/scumware lately? It is possible your system has the hack...I would check that and then if you do find something, change ALL your passwords. And to really protect your PayPal account I really suggest those who have a PP account use the PayPal Security Key, it is worth the $5:

https://www.paypal.com …PayPalSecurityK​ey-outside (external link)

My computer is clean, as I am on a well secured government computer.

Also, I just got the report back from Ebay, and the verdict is that the emails were indeed "spoofed" for phishing.

I'm not too worried about my/their account.

I think the scammer just has an automated system to generate emails. But the scary thing is, how did they get my email?:(


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Mar 30, 2009 21:04 |  #14

Well I just got a legit message from seller, who apparently didn't know about it. Also had different name, and spoke unlike a "bot".


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Mar 30, 2009 21:04 |  #15

jbrown7815 wrote in post #7632975 (external link)
I'm going to wait for seller to reply back to a question i sent over Ebay, as far as I can tell this scammer sent nothhing from ebay, all over actual email.

Thank you breck, will do that

Report it to Ebay immediately. You may be helping the seller who might not know this is going on as well.

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