There was a site someone posted before that shows a model shot with lenses from wide to telephoto, and how it changed her look.
If someone knows what I am talking about, can you re-post it?
Thanks
DerekW Goldmember 1,211 posts Joined May 2007 Location: Sarnia Ontario Canada More info | Apr 01, 2009 07:07 | #1 There was a site someone posted before that shows a model shot with lenses from wide to telephoto, and how it changed her look.
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Apr 01, 2009 16:44 | #2 nobody?
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xarqi Cream of the Crop 10,435 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Aotearoa/New Zealand More info | Apr 01, 2009 16:50 | #3 If there were such a site, it would be grossly misleading. Any difference in perspective would be due to differences in distance from the camera to the model, and completely independent of focal length.
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Apr 01, 2009 16:55 | #4 Possibly so, but it is not misleading in the fact that the pictures were all framed the same, and showed drastic differences is the way the model looked from wide to tele.
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PerryGe Batteries? We don't need no... . . . or cards. More info | Apr 01, 2009 17:25 | #5 Don't say I never gave you anything. Perry | www.perryge.com
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Sfordphoto Goldmember 2,564 posts Joined Feb 2008 More info | Apr 01, 2009 17:54 | #6 Perry Ge wrote in post #7647087 Don't say I never gave you anything. ![]() http://stepheneastwood.com …ials_Lens_Perspective.htm The key thing is that focal length has nothing to do with perspective, but all the shots in the link above have the same framing. They are shot at different distances (i.e. different perspectives), and focal lengths are changed in order to achieve the equivalent framing of the headshot. So really what the site is showing is the effect of different perspectives (i.e. different distances) on portraits, not the effect of different lenses. excellent clarification, perry
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BenJohnson Goldmember 1,811 posts Likes: 4 Joined Dec 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN More info | Apr 01, 2009 17:59 | #7 Perry Ge wrote in post #7647087 Don't say I never gave you anything. ![]() http://stepheneastwood.com …ials_Lens_Perspective.htm The key thing is that focal length has nothing to do with perspective, but all the shots in the link above have the same framing. They are shot at different distances (i.e. different perspectives), and focal lengths are changed in order to achieve the equivalent framing of the headshot. So really what the site is showing is the effect of different perspectives (i.e. different distances) on portraits, not the effect of different lenses. Focal Length + Framing = Perspective |Ben Johnson Photography
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bohdank Cream of the Crop 14,060 posts Likes: 6 Joined Jan 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada More info | Apr 01, 2009 18:07 | #8 I think that is what most people are looking for.....same framing, different focal length, hence different distances and different perspective. Bohdan - I may be, and probably am, completely wrong.
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xarqi Cream of the Crop 10,435 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Aotearoa/New Zealand More info | Apr 01, 2009 18:30 | #9 bohdank wrote in post #7647353 I think that is what most people are looking for.....same framing, different focal length, hence different distances and different perspective. I seriously doubt anyone cares to see the difference between taking a head shot from 5 feet away with a 50mm, and 5 feet away with a 300mm. I consider the focal length doesn't make a difference argument, without taking it in context of real life shooting, more as trivia than anything really usefull to know. That's all very well until confusion ensues over such spurious notions as "wide angle distortion", "telephoto compression", and "foot zooming". Understanding that perspective is caused by distance alone makes these ideas immediately suspect, as they should be; holding the opinion that perspective is influenced in any way at all by focal length, no matter how pragmatic that may seem, allows such nonsense to flourish to the detriment of the unwary.
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bohdank Cream of the Crop 14,060 posts Likes: 6 Joined Jan 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada More info | Apr 01, 2009 18:46 | #10 Touche. Bohdan - I may be, and probably am, completely wrong.
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SkipD Cream of the Crop 20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info | Apr 01, 2009 19:02 | #11 Several of us are working an a very comprehensive article about perspective with absolute proof that focal length, in itself, has nothing to do with perspective in an image. I'm taking the rest of the week off, so I should be able to get my part launched by the weekend. The rest is waiting for my part. We hope that it will be educational for the group. Skip Douglas
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bohdank Cream of the Crop 14,060 posts Likes: 6 Joined Jan 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada More info | Apr 01, 2009 19:33 | #12 KISS or nobody, who needs to understand this stuff, will understand it. Looking forward to seeing the results of all your efforts. Bohdan - I may be, and probably am, completely wrong.
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Apr 01, 2009 19:44 | #13 Perry Ge wrote in post #7647087 Don't say I never gave you anything. ![]() http://stepheneastwood.com …ials_Lens_Perspective.htm The key thing is that focal length has nothing to do with perspective, but all the shots in the link above have the same framing. They are shot at different distances (i.e. different perspectives), and focal lengths are changed in order to achieve the equivalent framing of the headshot. So really what the site is showing is the effect of different perspectives (i.e. different distances) on portraits, not the effect of different lenses. That's the one, you da man!
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xarqi Cream of the Crop 10,435 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Aotearoa/New Zealand More info | Apr 01, 2009 20:22 | #14 DerekW wrote in post #7647858 That's the one, you da man! I suppose, lens perspectives and distortion, though is that not a product of using a different lens to take the same picture? either way, thanks! The only way to take the same picture with a different focal length lens is to crop the image captured using the wider lens to match the image captured using the longer. As soon as you change distance in an attempt to match subject size for different focal lengths, you also change the perspective, affecting both the geometric rendering of any main subject and the relationship between foreground and background; the pictures could not then be considered the same.
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Apr 02, 2009 12:30 | #15 I got cha, the reason why I was looking for it was to showsomeone how using a longer lens could minimize a big nose.
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