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First Look - SX1 IS and RAW

 
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Apr 03, 2009 15:45 |  #1

Shooting in RAW and Large JPEG on the SX1 - the first is a RAW, converted to JPEG with DPP; the second is straight JPEG of the same shot. These, by the way, are 100% crops - that's zoomed in on the pixel level. ISO 100 with flash.


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Apr 03, 2009 15:47 |  #2

Same situation - first is RAW, second JPEG, 100% crops. No flash in this instance.


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Apr 03, 2009 15:55 |  #3

The shots those crops were taken from:


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These were frames 1 and 2. So far my impressions - I'd really prefer to be able to set HD video without having to go into 16:9 aspect ratio for my stills. It feels enough like the SX10 that there's not going to be much learning curve, but I'm sure glad the card isn't inside the battery compartment any more.

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Apr 04, 2009 16:43 |  #4

The Clue Crew came to town today, so I got to try the SX1 at 1600. Would I have taken the 1D3 and 70-200 2.8 IS? I don't think so. This was at ISO 1600, 21 mm, f/4 and 1/15 sec. I'm still getting used to the AF area - should have used the smaller AF zone on it so I got focus on Jimmy instead of the set.


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And a 100% crop of the reprocessed RAW (Luminance NR and sharpening were all I applied; I could have probably played around with it more and done a bit better)


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No, it's not as good as a contemporary DSLR can do, but it's at least as good as my 2003 D60 could at its max. ISO; Canon maxed ISO on that at 1000. And the IS did quite well, considering I was at least 3 stops below the "safe" limit for an unstabilized lens there.

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Apr 04, 2009 17:29 |  #5

By comparison, here's the SX10 at ISO 800. Since the SX10 hasn't got RAW, there's no post-processing applied. Half that softness is the noise, I think. The other half is the large area these guys use for AF sensing. I'm spoiled by the DSLRs.


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Apr 09, 2009 22:17 |  #6

Jon - doesn't this camera have 1080p video? How's that working?


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Apr 10, 2009 05:07 |  #7

Haven't tried it yet. Setting the camera to shoot HD video and to shoot RAW stills are mutually exclusive - I'll probably only do HD for stuff I really want to save because of that.


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Apr 10, 2009 09:11 |  #8

OK, thanks. Let us know when you do. Thinking about this as a glove-box camera for my car.


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Apr 10, 2009 09:54 |  #9

You must have a pretty big glove-box. Mine's filled with just manuals, registration, sunglasses, spare bulbs and the like.


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Apr 10, 2009 12:19 as a reply to  @ Jon's post |  #10

What's wrong with you guys? That box is for gloves!


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Apr 26, 2009 18:19 |  #11

Jon, any more experiences or impressions to share on the SX1 yet? I'm just trying to get as many real life user experience opinions as possible to weigh into my buying decision.




  
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Apr 26, 2009 19:16 |  #12

Neat.

It looks like the RAW conversion has just the slightest amount more color saturation.


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Apr 26, 2009 19:28 |  #13

DPP allows you to play with saturation, contrast, and both luminance and chrominance noise levels at the lowest possible level, so it's pretty easy to boost your IQ. RAW was one reason I went for the SX1.


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Apr 27, 2009 11:55 as a reply to  @ Jon's post |  #14

Jon do you know whether remote capture works with the SX1 IS and if it will let you use RAW and manual focus. Remote capture for the G9 was JPEG and AF only.

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Apr 27, 2009 12:00 |  #15

Nope - no Remote Capture at all . . .


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