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Apr 04, 2009 21:49 |  #1

Does anyone know a proven method for removing those pesky contrails from a landscape scene?
I've used the clone tool in P/S but am not pleased with the results. The replaced sky is slightly darker or lighter than the surrounding area.


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Apr 04, 2009 22:46 |  #2

It depends on the image. Can you post a sample?


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Apr 05, 2009 01:27 |  #3

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This is what I'm trying to correct. Thanks

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Apr 05, 2009 03:53 |  #4

I can't see the image ...


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Apr 05, 2009 10:56 |  #5

I can't see the image ...

Me, either.
Did you try the Patch Tool &/or the Healing Brush?


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Apr 05, 2009 15:29 |  #6

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Oops! Sorry- the image was accidently deleted. Anyway here is one example. I've used the clone tool but haven't tried the healing brush. Thanks for the suggestion. Will give it a try.

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Apr 05, 2009 15:35 |  #7

Well- I tried the healing brush but the results were lass than satisfactory. Also with the clone tool the replaced pixels are either too light or too dark and are noticeable as a streak in the photo.


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Apr 05, 2009 16:36 as a reply to  @ Kirby's post |  #8

Kirby,

I apologise for being awkward, but I actually prefer your image with the contrail left as it is. Makes it more interesting than it would be without it.


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Apr 05, 2009 17:03 |  #9

The top contrail does draw your eye away from the mountain, I would use the clone tool and select right below or above every clone, reselect for every piece to get similar colour match. Then after that do it all again to fix any bad spots. I'm sure if you work at it you can get good results.


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Apr 05, 2009 17:49 |  #10

Thanks for the input. I'll give those suggestions a try and let you know how it goes.


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Apr 05, 2009 19:12 |  #11

I would use the clone tool and select right below or above every clone, reselect for every piece to get similar colour match. Then after that do it all again to fix any bad spots. I'm sure if you work at it you can get good results.

Yes, sometimes you need to do small parts, reselect the source area, & just sneak up on it.
Sometimes the patch tool works best if you isolate the area with the clone tool first, & then patch that section. Here's an illustration:


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Don't try to do too big an area at once.
Try sneaking up on it with a low opacity.
Try turning on/off the check boxes for aligned & use all layers.
Sometimes you need to use all the cloning tools just to clean up one area.
And have you noticed that the clone tool has different modes, just as the layers have Blend Modes?

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Apr 06, 2009 10:57 |  #12

The others have given you good suggestions. Watch out for the shadow of the contrail on another misty area. You will need to clone that out too. If you have a suitable sky shot available, it would be pretty easy to mask El Cap and replace the sky completely.
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Apr 06, 2009 12:24 as a reply to  @ poloman's post |  #13

Since you're willing to alter the sky, why not just replace it with something very like the original. This is painted in using gradients and cloud brushes.

IMAGE: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2007/skyfix.jpg

Same gradient replacing sky, but preserving the clouds at lower right and lower left, and just adding some mist at upper left.

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Apr 09, 2009 00:46 |  #14

Peano. Wow - that looks great. I'll have to give it a try. My big problem was that if I use a polarizer on the image,it gives the sky constant gradient. So if a selection for cloning is made it will either be lighter or darker than the data it's replacing. But using your technique I don't have to worry about that.Thanks for all the suggestions.


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Apr 09, 2009 05:32 as a reply to  @ Kirby's post |  #15

I just used the patch tool only. If your careful from where you choose the source it works pretty well. Great image btw. I'd love to see a larger version. :D

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