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Apr 06, 2009 03:54 |  #1

OK. So far i am happy with the 50D. Af could be better but I am used to the 1DsII. IQ is great and 16 frame buffer is really nice, considering the file sizes. BUT why would I use SRAW when it gives absolutely no expansion of the buffer? (SRAW2 gives me an extra 2 or 3 frames :| ). Granted the buffer will clear faster but I dont really see why they did this, if the only advantage is twice as many shots on a card? Or is there another advantage other than storage space?


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Apr 06, 2009 04:06 |  #2

Nope, just storage space


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Apr 06, 2009 04:19 |  #3

I guess the extra processing to reduce the file means there can be no gain in speed :| shame really.


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Apr 06, 2009 07:01 |  #4

Neilyb wrote in post #7676040 (external link)
OK. So far i am happy with the 50D. Af could be better but I am used to the 1DsII. IQ is great and 16 frame buffer is really nice, considering the file sizes. BUT why would I use SRAW when it gives absolutely no expansion of the buffer? (SRAW2 gives me an extra 2 or 3 frames :| ). Granted the buffer will clear faster but I dont really see why they did this, if the only advantage is twice as many shots on a card? Or is there another advantage other than storage space?

The main advantage of SRAW1 is that you get an usable 7 MP picture with somewhat less noise than the full 15 MP mode. The example was taken with the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 at ISO12800, f5.6, 1/320. Noise was processed with Noise Ninja.

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Apr 06, 2009 07:16 |  #5

But resizing a 15Mp shot to 7MP will do the same...?


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Apr 06, 2009 08:20 |  #6

I sometimes use sRAW1 to reduce the file size for when I don't need a 15.1 mpixel image. Also, sRAW1 images are cleaner than their RAW counterparts.


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Apr 06, 2009 08:20 |  #7

Neilyb wrote in post #7676543 (external link)
But resizing a 15Mp shot to 7MP will do the same...?

I don't think so, but it may depend on the algorithm you use to process the shot.

Any way, I have never had the necessity of using ISO6400 or 12800, but if I have to, I would prefer to use SRAW1 with those high ISOs. Even with 15MP, the noise of the 50d at ISO6400 and 12800 is quite nicely reduced with Noise Ninja or Dfine 2.0.

It is nice to have a lot of alternatives at your disposal, and the 50d is quite good at that.

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Apr 06, 2009 10:06 |  #8

Fair points.


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Apr 06, 2009 12:03 as a reply to  @ Neilyb's post |  #9

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I don't want or need smaller files... A the low price of today's memory cards, I cannot see why a person would not want the best quality image.


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Apr 06, 2009 13:26 |  #10

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I don't want or need smaller files... A the low price of today's memory cards, I cannot see why a person would not want the best quality image.

But SRAW arguably provides the best quailty images for high ISOs.


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Apr 06, 2009 13:46 |  #11

I was about to fill up my CF cards a couple weeks ago. Towards the end, I switched from RAW to SRAW2 and fit in a few more shots.


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Apr 06, 2009 14:48 |  #12

RPCrowe wrote in post #7678107 (external link)
I don't want or need smaller files... A the low price of today's memory cards, I cannot see why a person would not want the best quality image.

Actually, I was referring to computer storage. Those 25Mb RAW+Large files fill a hard drive fast ;) .


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Apr 06, 2009 15:35 |  #13

twoshadows wrote in post #7679091 (external link)
Actually, I was referring to computer storage. Those 25Mb RAW+Large files fill a hard drive fast ;) .

In my opinion, saving storage is not the main purpose of SRAW1 or SRAW2. The full RAW file is about 20.2Mbytes. SRAW1 is about 12.6 Mbytes and SRAW2 is about 9.2 Mbytes, so not much is gained in hard disk space (as much as what you lose in resolution, that is 7.1Mp in SRAW1 and 3.8Mp in SRAW2). Additionally, disk space today is quite cheap. A 320 Gbytes 2.5" external drive is less than $90 and will hold over 15000 RAW files (I store three copies of every RAW file, in three different hard disks, just to be sure). A 1Tbyte hard disk is less than $120 and will hold almost 50000 RAW files.

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