How do the pros do it? .... crops

I have asked this question in another form but I never got a decisive answer, well not the one I was looking for anyway. How do you take a shot on a crop camera (2x3 ratio) and offer clients 8X10s (4x5 ratio) and 5X7s (you get the picture?) I want to know how do you shoot with those types of crops in mind. Offering an 8X10 and a 5X7 just seems so odd the more I learn about photography. I thought about offering 8X12s and 4X6s to my customers but that would seem so odd to them... I want to hear what you folks out there do and how you do it, crop photos that is.

BTW, I am talking about head shots, half body and full shots.

I can't comment about shooting 'em, but here's how I proof 'em ... link

I offer old and new sizes. For photos likely to be ordered by older people I make sure to leave space on the edge so I can print an 8x10. If I forget then I just tell people sorry they can't order an 8x10, but an 8x12 is available.

First I'm sure not a Pro, but this is my experience. I have learned to shoot more loose on the long end to give me cushion for 8x10 crops. However its still frustrating but something ones needs to keep in mind.

I will do crop tests on Mpix order site to see how a particular image can or will be cropped. 5x7 are not as much a problem as 8x10 for me.

Good Luck

I don't offer people anything. I give them what I want and if they don't like it, tough.

Damo77 wrote in post #7740317
I can't comment about shooting 'em, but here's how I proof 'em ... link

Interesting idea, Damo. I'll give this a try next time I send off for prints.

HankScorpio wrote in post #7743301
I don't offer people anything. I give them what I want and if they don't like it, tough.

So the customer is never right in your neck of the woods?

Adding to what others have said, you could also use custom mattes to fit your desired photo size or crop to a larger frame. Alternatively you can use borders on the image to fit a certain crop to size. I think you would be surprised at how a black border looks around a photo to fit it to a certain size. This works best for smaller photos and crops where you don't have too large of a border, but worth a shot.

scrumpy wrote in post #7743861
So the customer is never right in your neck of the woods?

No, I simply, only sell images how I want them to be. I don't do requests. If people don't want them how I offer them then they don't have to buy them. Which is why I don't do weddings etc.

BigAlz1 wrote in post #7740236
How do you take a shot on a crop camera (2x3 ratio) and offer clients 8X10s (4x5 ratio) and 5X7s (you get the picture?) I want to know how do you shoot with those types of crops in mind.

I think it's pretty simple. Just keep in mind how these different crop stack up together and shoot so that your subject stays inside all of them.

Thanks guys (gals), I do understand how things crop down and how each ratio effects the subject, I just wanted to hear how others did it and if anyone bothered buying one of those crop assist, pieces for their viewfinder or another technique that might assist in framing for a crop other then guess work.
In2Photos, thank you very much your post was helpful. I will read your link shortly Damo77.