The reason I asked the question is from reading this forum for the last 6 months people really seem to be pleased with refurbished 40D, especially from Adorama. Seems like they get a camera that has been gone over with a fine tooth comb by Canon and have no issues. The only person I know here in NC that has purchased a new 40D had numerous issues with the err99 code and ended up returning it and got a Nikon. I've owned nothing but Canon's since the 70's and my only digital, a G3, has been stellar. With 3 lens from the Elan 7 I want to stay with the 40D / 50D line. Just worried that I might get a refurb with 10K clicks. I'm hoping the new Canon's have had the early issues worked out and stock on hand wasn't made 12 monts ago. Thanks to all for the input.