Dec 16, 2009 14:22 | #1531 Woohoo, Chris, what a fun shot to play with! Tony
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yeow_Z Goldmember  1,198 posts Joined Jun 2008 Location: Orange County More info | Dec 17, 2009 00:17 | #1532 tonylong wrote in post #9209617  Do you have the original in your Raw converter? Typically the Raw converter retains the edits you have made before you import it into Photoshop or whatever. It's this image you want to display as your "After" image. The screenshot is just the Raw edits that you did to get the actual photo pleasing and ready for the photoshopping. From there, like I said, a fun edit like you posted can be an added shot, but the actual Raw After is what we aim at! Hey, welcome to the thread! Feel free to keep posting! i also deleted it, bec. i was just bored last night and just played around (not my official editing style). ill just post other pic some other time. cs4 is ok right?
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Dec 17, 2009 00:47 | #1533 yeow_Z wrote in post #9213780 i also deleted it, bec. i was just bored last night and just played around (not my official editing style). ill just post other pic some other time. cs4 is ok right? Hey, all are welcome here! As far as CS4, the results of editing in Camera Raw are great, just remember this is not about sending a shot to Photoshop and showing the results, but getting as much out of Camera Raw as you can and show us the results. And, in that regards, all contributions add value to the thread! Tony
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop  39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Dec 17, 2009 03:21 | #1534 tonylong wrote in post #9210364 a bit more power in the flash would go a long way As well as a color gel on the flash to get the color temperature down "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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sanjeedbd Senior Member 361 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2009 More info | Dec 19, 2009 04:52 | #1535 Great discussion and learning thread really. I started shooting RAW and processing in Lightroom very recently and needless to say; the results are amazing. There are some shots that simply couldn't be dreamed of previously when I used to shoot in jpeg and processed in photoshop. However, I am yet to figure out how to inject real life into water and sky. May be it's a basic question but may not be very stupid by a beginner. Would be nice if u could kindly assist. Thanks in advance.
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WhyFi Goldmember  2,774 posts Gallery: 246 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 845 Joined Apr 2008 Location: I got a castle in Brooklyn, that's where I dwell. More info | Dec 19, 2009 07:06 | #1536 sanjeedbd wrote in post #9226861 Great discussion and learning thread really. I started shooting RAW and processing in Lightroom very recently and needless to say; the results are amazing. There are some shots that simply couldn't be dreamed of previously when I used to shoot in jpeg and processed in photoshop. However, I am yet to figure out how to inject real life into water and sky. May be it's a basic question but may not be very stupid by a beginner. Would be nice if u could kindly assist. Thanks in advance. In LightRoom, there are a couple of things that I like to do with skies (don't play with water a lot, but I think that the same would apply) -
These are with varying clarity adjustments, 0, +30, +100, from first to last. I didn't bother with adjusting the blues - the sky could use a little bump, but that's for another post. (Click for larger)    So, the sky looks almost gauzy in the first, the original. The second one is what I ended up with for a final - one thing to note is that haloing is a little more noticeable at small sizes like the embedded photos; a small bit can be seen, here - at my intended output resolution of 1024 pixels, none can be discerned. The third, at +100 is just over the top, but something I've seen too regularly - those dark blue halos around those white cloud peaks drives me nuts... One other thing to keep in mind - look at the effect of your adjustment on the whole frame - many times, people are making an adjustment for a specific part of the image (and that part looks great!), but they fail to notice that it's over the top on another part of the image. For instance - adjusting the blue H/S/L to get the color skies that you want... and not seeing that some guy's blue jeans went supernova on the bottom half of the pic. To get around this problem, I'm a big fan of local adjustments and I find the Graduated Filter tool to be really useful - it gives me a nice balance of control and speed of work flow. Bill is my name - I'm the most wanted man on my island, except I'm not on my island, of course. More's the pity.
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Dimer Senior Member  381 posts Likes: 12 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Amsterdam More info | Dec 19, 2009 13:53 | #1537 My first strobist attempt  And with the last one I was having a bit of fun. This guy is my boxing partner, so I always make fun that I beat him up   Canon 7D gripped | Canon 5Dc | Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 | EF 50 F1.8 II | EF 24-70 F2.8 USM L | EF 70-200 F2.8 USM L | Westcott Ice Light | Speedlite 430 EX II | Elinchrom BxRi 2x250 + accessories |
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col4bin Goldmember  2,264 posts Joined Feb 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA More info | Dec 19, 2009 14:24 | #1538 I'll add one
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Dec 19, 2009 18:26 | #1539 WhyFi, thanks for a nice simple explanation and illustration! Tony
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sanjeedbd Senior Member 361 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2009 More info | Dec 19, 2009 19:00 | #1540 Thnx WhyFi. It's a great advice; I'll certainly try it out.
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Dimer Senior Member 381 posts Likes: 12 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Amsterdam More info | Dec 20, 2009 04:26 | #1541 tonylong wrote in post #9229919 WhyFi, thanks for a nice simple explanation and illustration! Dimer, interesting shots, but I'm not sure what the "After" is accomplishing? Is it mainly the skin "healing" (I guess that's it)? Maybe post your adjustments and an explanation of what you were trying to process -- I imagine you were going for Dark in everthing but the face... Frank, it looks like you got good results there, thanks! This was my first strobist shot and I was quite happy with the result. We were indeed going for the all black but face look. So I only retouched his skin and made the background a bit darker. Canon 7D gripped | Canon 5Dc | Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 | EF 50 F1.8 II | EF 24-70 F2.8 USM L | EF 70-200 F2.8 USM L | Westcott Ice Light | Speedlite 430 EX II | Elinchrom BxRi 2x250 + accessories |
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oldvultureface Goldmember  More info | A snapshot of the kids in front of their new (to them) house. I'm not sure what Mr. Ettl was thinking (-2/3 flash compensation). Perhaps the dark outerwear?  The JPEG was not as malleable as the RAW. A few very minor adjustments: 
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Dec 20, 2009 13:26 | #1543 Dimer, got it, nice jobe of controlling the strobes and touching up! Tony
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ScPhotoMom Goldmember  2,312 posts Likes: 14 Joined Jan 2009 Location: South Carolina More info | Dec 20, 2009 15:58 | #1544 I love this thread! Im going to have hours of stuff to look through lol My Flickr
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Dec 20, 2009 16:37 | #1545 obnoxiousmom wrote in post #9234227 I love this thread! Im going to have hours of stuff to look through lol Welcome to a great thread! We not only are here to inspire and educate each other, but we have fun as well! Tony
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