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Apr 29, 2009 12:51 |  #61

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No, this was taken from THE Hotel at Mandalay in Vegas (facing away from the strip). That's funny though, I've been to Colorado and that was the first thing I was reminded of when I looked out the window...

Heh! Yeah, it reminded me of looking west from some place like Silverton -- my sister used to live there.


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Apr 29, 2009 15:27 as a reply to  @ post 7810440 |  #62

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Apr 29, 2009 15:35 |  #63

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Here's a recent shot that was taken through a blue tinted hotel window. Initially I thought it was a throw away, but I was able to get a decent recovery. The after shot was achieved using DPP alone, and I only played with the settings in the Raw tab. Great Idea for a thread by the way...

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The setting changes were as follows:

Brightness: -1.17
White Balance: "Click white balance" used the eyedropper on a snow cap.
Picture Style" From "Faithful" to "Landscape"
Contrast: 4
Color Saturation: 3
Sharpness: 9

Just a word of advice, when you use the 'Click white balance' tool pick a spot that's 18% gray, not white. Look for values close to 90-90-90 (I will double check once I'm back home) on the color codes display. This way you will correctly simulate how the camera sensor sees it. And you will avoid the 'bluish' tint in the seconds pic.




  
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Apr 29, 2009 15:36 |  #64

Very Cool, SJPHoto! Isn't it cool how much we can do without Photoshop?

I've thought of another option for this thread: After you have shown all you can do in the RAW developer, say you find you really need Photoshop for what it can do, at the end of your RAW post, maybe post a "Final Outcome" image showing the results of your PS edits. That could be interesting and educational -- what do you think?


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Apr 29, 2009 15:38 |  #65

Thanks Tony. =) LR is fab... I'm still addicted to bringing in my photos to PS after LR, but it saves so much time! Good idea on posting some "after afters" I might get around to some after work.


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Apr 29, 2009 15:40 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #66

Here is one of my "after" collages. I used an additional of HWood sign as background and added gradient.

http://img.photobucket​.com …woodsign.jpg?t=​1241037535 (external link)


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Apr 29, 2009 15:42 |  #67

Cool stuff....

This one is not a "Raw Vs. Post processed" (I don;t have the RAW version handy right now)

But on a similar topic, this is two versions of an image I processed twice,.

The first time was within the first few months I had been playing with a RAW converter,. and early in my post processing career in general.

A few years later I felt that the first attempt had sold the image short,. and I could do better. SO I had another go.

One of the beauties of RAW is that as you and technology progress, as you get more familiar with your ever improving tool set, (and simply as you grow more familiar with artistic and creative tweaking of your images,... ) you can re-visit your old shots and get more from them. They can be "works in progress" so to speak.

The first attempt, my first month working with a RAW converter,. I belive I was using PS7 and the first version of ACR;

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Later I was using RawShooter Professional (the excellent program Adobe pillaged for Lightroom) and I had come a long way ...

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In addition to the obvious improvements from better use of the tools in post, my own sense of composition was certainly better the 2nd time around ! :lol:


If I get the chance I will try and dig up the archived raw file for a straight to jpeg conversion.. and heck it's been a few years, maybe I'll have another go! :) .. (see if I can make that branch in the lower right hand side go away.. )

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Apr 29, 2009 15:55 |  #68

OK, I've put together another interesting one.

Picture a cloudy Fall day in the late afternoon. What low sun there is doesn't help the colorful Fall-colored trees in the foreground, but above, the sky, which is mixed clouds with patches of blue, is still quite light.

This is a typical "high contrast" outdoors scene which necessitates some real thought and juggling by the photog. And, shooting trees with any breeze rules out an HDR approach.

Since I, for many shots, prefer a RAW develop approach over the idea of doing a double processing approach in Photoshop (except for shots I plan on a final highest quality print/display output), I took several exposures, trying to "Expose To The Right", but without blowing out the clouds overmuch.

As you will see, my chosen exposure started life with the clouds too bright, the blue sky nearly invisible, and the trees too dark, all of which would have been the fate of a jpeg. But check out the Before and After, and you can see quite a nice transformation, maybe not magazine quality, but a cool Fall shot for my collection! BTW, since I only have LR 1.4 at the time, I'm sure that LR 2 with all the local edits would have made this come out even better!

BTW, for the actual shot, I'm posting the "original" with the Exif available.

Out of camera with Lightroom defaults:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/image/104829253/original.jpg

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IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/104829332/original.jpg

In Lightroom I first tweaked in Basic and the Tone Curve section:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/111923677.jpg

Then I tweaked some of the channels (Blue and Green) for Saturation:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/111923911.jpg

Finally, I tweaked the Red And Green channels for Luminance, which all gave what was to me, a balanced blend of colors. You can also see my sharpening levels here -- no noise reduction, since it was shot at ISO 400 (hand-held):

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/111923917.jpg

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Apr 29, 2009 15:57 |  #69

Tony, nice recovery on the sky... how did you get your camera info on the upper right of the image?


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Apr 29, 2009 16:03 |  #70

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Tony, nice recovery on the sky... how did you get your camera info on the upper right of the image?

Thanks for the comment! The shooting info shows up for the displayed image can be cycled through by hitting the 'i' key-- you get no info, date/time/image size info, and exposure/lens info.


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Apr 29, 2009 16:06 |  #71

I hope you all are enjoying this thread like I am! A lot of people have been looking...we need more contributions:)!!


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Apr 29, 2009 16:06 |  #72

tonylong wrote in post #7827368 (external link)
Thanks for the comment! The shooting info shows up for the displayed image can be cycled through by hitting the 'i' key-- you get no info, date/time/image size info, and exposure/lens info.




Simple enough, thanks. =)


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Apr 29, 2009 16:57 |  #73

Tony, thanks for your kind words and this thread.

EternalLife you should read through this thread follow other peoples settings then look for your LR tutorials will have a better understanding of them then. I find that having applied what I have learned from this single thread has been so relative in understanding what can be done to RAW files.

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Apr 29, 2009 17:40 as a reply to  @ niall_eidw's post |  #74

I think I will niall_eidw. Nice picture BTW. I've tried to do this with a few of mine and they just don't come out that great. There are a lot of dials to turn - I just don't know the order or how much.


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Apr 29, 2009 18:34 as a reply to  @ EternalLife's post |  #75

I wish Adobe would release Camera RAW as a stand-alone application. Maybe I'm just lazy, but 99% of the time, I do everything in ACR and export to jpeg. I rarely find a need to go into anything else.


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