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Apr 29, 2009 05:24 |  #1

Looking at getting a long lens again - in hindsight I probably shouldn't have sold my 100-400L (especially now the prices have shot up).

I recognise that most of the time you get what you pay for, but I'm no pro, so maybe the more affordable lenses will be just fine for occasional airshow/motorsport use, maybe a bit of wildlife. It won't be a main lens - I tend to use my 24-105 and 70-200 f4IS most of the time.

Sigma seem to have a few long ones that seem to overlap, hence some confusion on my part.

Was looking at:

- sigma 120-400 OS
- sigma 150-500 OS
- sigma 50-500 (not OS but EX glass)
- Canon 100-400 L IS

any others in that kind of range? Could people that have owned one or more give their comments? I'm trying to get an idea of price Vs performance. The canon is a lot more than any of the sigmas. The 150-500 OS is about half the price, only about half a stop slower on the long end, but 100mm longer.


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Apr 29, 2009 05:32 |  #2

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, go back to the Canon 100-400
you know it makes sense
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Apr 29, 2009 05:50 |  #3

I agree with you that you should not have sold your Canon 100-400 as they are very good at airshows.

I used one for about 3 years for aircraft and motorsport photography and it perfomed very well.

While at the airshows the most common big lenses I saw were the Canon 100-400 and the Sigma 50-500 which is a good indication.

During the motorsport events I attend I do not see many Sigma 50-500's and the people I spoke to using them thought the focussing was a bit slow so bare that in mind.

With regard to the other cheaper Sigma's I have no personal knowledge and do not know anybody that owns one so unfortunately I cannot help you with these.

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Apr 29, 2009 06:51 as a reply to  @ S.Ransom's post |  #4

Should have kept the 100-400 ;) but like you said hindsight is 20/20. For the things your wanting to shoot I'd go back to the 100-400. I use mine for very similar things. Airshows, Zoo trips, Wildlife, Sports and some candids.




  
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Apr 29, 2009 07:18 |  #5

Do you have any problems with heavy lens? If you do, stay away from the Sigmas.
If you don't, try out the 150-500. AWESOME lens for the price. ;)


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Apr 29, 2009 07:55 |  #6

[QUOTE]Was looking at:

- sigma 120-400 OS
- sigma 150-500 OS
- sigma 50-500 (not OS but EX glass)
- Canon 100-400 L IS

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This makes me wonder, is there such a thing as EX "grade" glass in Sigma lenses? Or the OP just meant EX lens, meaning supposedly higher grade built and finish (plus a gold ring)?


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Apr 29, 2009 08:11 |  #7

Why are all your choices zooms? Some good primes you should consider.


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Apr 29, 2009 08:20 |  #8

I've been very happy with my Bigma (50-500) for kids soccer. It might not be fast enough in a couple years, but it has better than I really expected and I enjoy the reach. I use the * for continuous focus, and it does pretty well keeping up teamed with a 20D.

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Apr 29, 2009 10:23 |  #9

gasrocks wrote in post #7824793 (external link)
Why are all your choices zooms? Some good primes you should consider.


I know they should be much better quality, but eg when doing my local airshow, 400mm was great when the planes were in the sky, but way too long when landing or on the ground. Don't want to swap lenses during a display, and don't have two bodies.


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Apr 29, 2009 10:44 |  #10

There is probably no better AirShow lens than the EF 100-400. Now, if you said wild birds, that would be a different matter.


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Apr 29, 2009 10:55 |  #11

Before I bought my EF100-400, I had a Sigma 170-500. At the time I was pleased with the results - based on the price/performance balance. Since using the 100-400 I see a distinct improvement in my images, but if I'd paid top dollar for a new example, then I'd damn well expect to! Thankfully I got a virtually new example at half price and I'm well pleased with it.

The newer Sigma 150-500 is by all accounts a lot better lens than the old 170-500, so you really need to get the shop to allow you to shoot with it before deciding. I'm lucky, my local shop allows me to play with a lot of stuff before choosing.


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Apr 29, 2009 11:42 |  #12

I have a Sigma 150-500 and the OS system is awesome, I've had shots at 1/80 at 500mm. My main use is birds and the IQ is a match for the Canon 100-400, though it is slightly heavier I don't find it a problem and happily used it for 5 hours at a wildlife sanctuary.


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Apr 29, 2009 12:36 |  #13

My recommendation is the 150-500 BigmOS or the 100-400 Canon

I had both, I prefer my 100-400 to the 150-500 copy I had...

For airshows, Id recommend the 100-400 over the Bigmos because the push-pull design makes it zoom FAST compared to the Bigmos


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Apr 29, 2009 12:48 as a reply to  @ KenjiS's post |  #14

I am very pleased with my...

I am very pleased with my 300mm f/4L IS lens used both alone and with the 1.4x TC. It matches very well with my 70-200mm f/4L IS lens since I usually shoot with a pair of cameras.

Used alone, the 300mm gives me an f/4 aperture, faster than most of the zooms you have listed. Used with a 1.4x TC, it is a 420mm f/5.6 with very good AF and IQ.

BTW: I purchased both the 300mm f/4L IS lens and the 400mm f/5.6L for about the price of a new 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 lens.


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May 21, 2009 15:13 as a reply to  @ RPCrowe's post |  #15

quick bump.

I have the opportunity to get a used 50-500 for about £500, which is quite a lot below new price in the UK, and a lot less than a 100-400. Its quite worn cosmetically on the outside, but it does appear to be just cosmetic (I'll check thorougly first)

Jump at it, or would you still say hold out for 100-400 or 150-500?


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