Property tax on camera gear

Capn Jack wrote in post #19374765
Do you have a source for that? Or are you a tax accountant?

easily found on the web, both directly from CA county authority and from professional consultants. Two examples of government info sources

https://www.boe.ca.gov …es/pdf/sample-boe571l.pdf

https://www.amadorgov.​org …ed%20by%20the%2​0taxpayers.

And an example of a consultant

https://www.crowdreaso​n.com …s-property-tax-california

Wilt wrote in post #19374774
easily found on the web, both directly from CA county authority and from professional consultants. Two examples of government info sources

https://www.boe.ca.gov …es/pdf/sample-boe571l.pdf

https://www.amadorgov.​org …ed%20by%20the%2​0taxpayers.

And an example of a consultant

https://www.crowdreaso​n.com …s-property-tax-california

There, it wasn’t so hard to cite your sources, was it?

It’s not incumbent upon the reader to find the citations.

Capn Jack wrote in post #19374787
There, it wasn’t so hard to cite your sources, was it?

It’s not incumbent upon the reader to find the citations.

So it is an obligation for all here to post a bibliography?! I did quote my source, it was not my heresay interpretation. Why didn't you also ping the folks who posted #39 or 40 or 41 to back up their statements with proofs, too (to cite a few statements made with no backup) thanks for grading my paper. I sense a pattern of AAPI hatred.

Capn Jack wrote in post #19374787
There, it wasn’t so hard to cite your sources, was it?

It’s not incumbent upon the reader to find the citations.

Wrong, you can ask for one but never expect one.

If you disagree prove it incorrect or move on.

Wilt wrote in post #19374789
So it is an obligation for all here to post a bibliography?! I did quote my source, it was not my heresay interpretation. Why didn't you also ping the folks who posted #39 or 40 or 41 to back up their statements with proofs, too (to cite a few statements made with no backup) thanks for grading my paper. I sense a pattern of AAPI hatred.

Don’t act stupid. I didn’t ask for a bibliography. Just a link to your source.

Channel One wrote in post #19374795
Wrong, you can ask for one but never expect one.

If you disagree prove it incorrect or move on.

It is easier to show if the information is taken out of context or incorrect with a link or citation. It isn’t that difficult to copy the link after lifting the text.

What is your problem with citing quoted text? It is polite, gives credit where it is due, simple to cite, and provides proper context. It also allows for in-depth reading if desired, and allows the reader to see if the source is credible.

Texas is rather interesting. Texas has one of the highest business personal property tax rate in the nation (Texas defines "business personal property" as everything the business owns--equipment and inventory-- besides the real estate and buildings), but it only taxes on property real value totals over $20,000.

However, an annual "rendition" must be filed even if the tax will be zero. Failure to file a rendition results in a penalty of 10% of the tax amount, which, under $20,000, would be zero.

The instructions we get then, are:

Similar here in FL, except our threshold is $25k. Received a letter from the County Tax Collector (which collects for the state) that my adjusted real value has been under $25k for the past 2 years, if that remains unchanged, I no longer need to file.

Capn Jack wrote in post #19374867
Don’t act stupid. I didn’t ask for a bibliography. Just a link to your source.

It is easier to show if the information is taken out of context or incorrect with a link or citation. It isn’t that difficult to copy the link after lifting the text.

What is your problem with citing quoted text? It is polite, gives credit where it is due, simple to cite, and provides proper context. It also allows for in-depth reading if desired, and allows the reader to see if the source is credible.

If you like, I can make statements with zero attribution of quotation marks, and will you leave me alone, just as you leave alone the dozens of other statements with zero backup that are found in this thread?
I usually leave links to quoted statements, and one of the few time that I do not, you jump on it! why the antagonism aimed in my direction, over multiple threads? sheesh

Wilt wrote in post #19375015
If you like, I can make statements with zero attribution of quotation marks, and you will leave me alone, just as you leave alone the dozens of other statements.
I usually leave links to quoted statements, and one of the few time that I do not, you jump on it!

That makes you even worse in that case. It doesn't take long to copy and paste the link after you lift the text.

Give it a rest!

I'd like to hear how cities/counties/states justify this kind of tax. What's the rationale? Are you, in theory, reimbursing the government for expenses it expects to incur because you own things used in your business?

OhLook wrote in post #19375023
I'd like to hear how cities/counties/states justify this kind of tax. What's the rationale? Are you, in theory, reimbursing the government for expenses it expects to incur because you own things used in your business?

No moral justification that I can determine. They're tasking inventory and equipment that, sitting on your shelves, actually provides you nothing at all--it's essentially a loss to you while it's sitting on the shelf. But when you use/sell it to generate an income, they're going to tax that.

OhLook wrote in post #19375023
I'd like to hear how cities/counties/states justify this kind of tax. What's the rationale? Are you, in theory, reimbursing the government for expenses it expects to incur because you own things used in your business?

It's just another tax used to fund government activities. Poking around a bit it looks as 12 states do not have a personal property tax. Interesting observation, 6 of the states are in the top 12 for overall tax burden. I guess they feel they are getting enough in other ways.

North Dakota
South Dakota
Ohio
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New York
New Hampshire
Hawaii
Delaware
Illinois
Minnesota
Iowa

New York 15.90%
Connecticut 15.40%
Hawaii 14.10%
Vermont 13.60%
California 13.50%
New Jersey 13.20%
Illinois 12.90%
Virginia 12.50%
Delaware 12.40%
Maine 12.40%
Utah 12.10%
Minnesota 12.10%

OhLook wrote in post #19375023
I'd like to hear how cities/counties/states justify this kind of tax. What's the rationale? Are you, in theory, reimbursing the government for expenses it expects to incur because you own things used in your business?

Purely rhetorical questions

• I'd like to know just how the taxes imposed on ships moving commerce on Rhine or Danube rivers imparted any 'value' to the cargo vessels?
  
• Today, what 'value' comes to the private owner of an automobile or boat or aircraft, from the 'in lieu' tax imposed? Gas tax pays for road maintenance, in theory. So where does the auto registration tax go? and what does a boat owner or aircraft owner get, as any 'benefit'?
  

Wilt wrote in post #19375049
Purely rhetorical questions

• I'd like to know just how the taxes imposed on ships moving commerce on Rhine or Danube rivers imparted any 'value' to the cargo vessels?
  
• Today, what 'value' comes to the private owner of an automobile or boat or aircraft, from the 'in lieu' tax imposed? Gas tax pays for road maintenance, in theory. So where does the auto registration tax go? and what does a boat owner or aircraft owner get, as any 'benefit'?
  

"Just 'cuz the the robber baron controlling that part of the river could."
"Just 'cuz the state can make you pay."

As for the first item, the rivers, you don't think the waterways need to be maintained?
This one need registration to read, but I feel the headline tells the story.
https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/Dredging
https://www.bloomberg.​com …pe-s-most-important-river
https://www.euronews.c​om …and-environmental-dispute

Aircraft owners might be supporting the airports in a state. I know I pay a tax on avgas to support the airport trust fund.
https://nbaa.org …lon%20tax%20on%​20aviation