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May 02, 2009 22:25 |  #1

Please tell me I am not the only one that has trouble getting my (second body now that does exact same thing) 40D to capture red, especially bright reds, as they really are.
I have spent many hours adjusting settings and trying different things, I can capture every other color they way they really are but I can not get deep reds to show there red faces on my 40d sensor.

If anyone out there has had problems like this please share on what problems you had and if you found a fix for it.
If anyone wants to sing along at home, one of the reds I most notable have issues with, are the plastic disposable come that I keep in the kitchen and you see at birthday parties and suck. At my nephews Bday party the red on the cake looked like it had the sat. turned up to 10 and everything else set to 5.
I had to spend long time in PP getting my daughters red pants to stop glowing and look like they were from this world when I shot her in the sun.
I got the reds to stop glowing but I still can't capture the correct shade of red I see.

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May 02, 2009 22:30 |  #2

It's a known problem with cameras period. Color reproduction in both film and digital cameras is not the same as what you see, mainly because it is currently impossible to replicate your eyes. Everything from infrared to UV will change colors, and even if the bandpass filter in the camera worked 100%, the photodiodes are not sensitive to the same wavelengths as your eyes. Only way around it is to post process until it looks right, and then lament when it prints completely wrong or displays wrong on another computer.


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May 02, 2009 22:46 |  #3

Still seems there should be some sort of digital algorithm that could offset the limitations or the "un eye like" manner in which the sensors capture and translate those colors.




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May 02, 2009 22:48 |  #4

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May 02, 2009 22:53 |  #5

Canon's handling of the red channel in their DSLR is well known. Canon says that their market research in Japan says that people like the richer red tones. I'm not sure about Japan, but at least in the American markets it is a common complaint that the reds are too saturated. If you use Adobe Lightroom, or Photoshop, you can create a camera calibration in Camera Raw, and tone down the red intensity and have it applied to all of your images. If you shoot JPG, you might consider downloading Canon's Picture Style editor and creating a picture style where the reds are less intense, to your liking.


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May 02, 2009 22:59 |  #6

.....hey Big Al.....at least you're not fighting it the way I used to with my Minolta D7 ! I have a red and white motorcycle, and I NEVER could get this bike to look like anything other than orange with that camera. And I mean seriously orange. It's actually fairly close to the right hue with the Canon. Good luck with it !


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May 03, 2009 00:36 |  #7

Set WB to daylight
There is another setting (cannot remember the name, on the 30D I access it via the Menus and ti has various settings - you see 3,0,0,+,) or something like it across the line - open that and se it to Neutral


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May 03, 2009 00:38 |  #8

Im glad some one told me it was my camera and not my shooting. I HATE shooting the color red lol. I always have to drop my color saturation in DPP but then my others colors dont pop enough. Annoying!


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May 03, 2009 00:46 as a reply to  @ ScPhotoMom's post |  #9

When I have a certain color that is too prominent, I just tone down that specific color channel in LR2. Solves that problem nicely.


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May 03, 2009 01:02 |  #10

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Im glad some one told me it was my camera and not my shooting. I HATE shooting the color red lol. I always have to drop my color saturation in DPP but then my others colors dont pop enough. Annoying!

It's not really your camera either, it's the entire capturing of the image with something other than your eye deal.


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May 03, 2009 01:14 |  #11

Then you have monitors that are not accurate...inks and paper that are not accurate etc....


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May 03, 2009 01:19 |  #12

I just looked through a big folder of red images and they all seem pretty accurate. I do find the red channel shows the most noise, though.


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May 03, 2009 01:23 |  #13

Red lights are the worst when shooting live bands. Truly a photographer's worst nightmare at a gig.




  
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May 03, 2009 01:32 |  #14

tkbslc wrote in post #7847767 (external link)
I just looked through a big folder of red images and they all seem pretty accurate. I do find the red channel shows the most noise, though.

I agree completely with both parts of this statement. I have found the very same thing.
Interestingly I was just processing some predominately red images that I shot today; came on potn and found this thread... Coincidence.




  
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May 03, 2009 02:32 |  #15

Fighting the red channel is something I have a lot of frustration with too. I know the 1Ds2 and 1D3 handle reds significantly better than most other Canon bodies I've used - it can be dealt with in post, yes, but that's not ideal.


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