I also have a bunch of very nice shots with the zoom but I also have a bunch that I think could be better, just not sure how to make it happen without going to a super duper prime.
Diver-Down THREAD STARTER Senior Member 275 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2008 Location: Bethlehem PA More info | I also have a bunch of very nice shots with the zoom but I also have a bunch that I think could be better, just not sure how to make it happen without going to a super duper prime.
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morehtml Goldmember 2,987 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Murfreesboro, TN More info | May 03, 2009 21:35 | #17 Diver-Down wrote in post #7852306 Yes I noticed that too, and the first shot is the 400 prime. The crops are identical at 903 X 722 and I am 99% sure that the tripod didn't move between shots. I believe camera body needs to be in same spot maybe tripod feet threw it off or the mm on the prime is technically more. ---------------
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Diver-Down THREAD STARTER Senior Member 275 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2008 Location: Bethlehem PA More info | May 03, 2009 21:42 | #18 morehtml wrote in post #7852328 I believe camera body needs to be in same spot maybe tripod feet threw it off or the mm on the prime is technically more. I just checked and the camera body sits about 1 1/2" closer with the 100-400 mounted so I'm going with a few more mm on the prime, or a few less on the zoom
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morehtml Goldmember 2,987 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Murfreesboro, TN More info | I just took a shot you can compare to your camera using my 50D and 400mm. I put a $20 bill 161 inches from camera and used flash becasue its dark here. "Standard" style in camera jpg straight out of camera. ---------------
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NeoTokyo Goldmember 2,005 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2008 Location: Sacramento Ca, Springfield Mo. More info | May 04, 2009 04:53 | #20 morehtml that is one crisp bill! Check out my flickr! http://www.flickr.com/photos/crainracing/
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condyk Africa's #1 Tour Guide 20,887 posts Likes: 22 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK More info | May 04, 2009 05:24 | #21 I suspect the vast majority of those who've owned and used both would say the 400mm is clearly better on every category apart from ability to zoom. I've owned two 100-400mm's and three 400mm's and it's not exactly light and day but pretty close to that. You only have to look at most samples. The 400mm's are mainly excellent, the 100-400mm's are far more inconsistent. Even so, individual experience will vary - if you have an excellent copy of the 100-400mm IS, sharp wide open at 400mm, then probably better to stick with it. BIF are also very difficult to capture well and there are plenty of 100-400mm owners who have the technique nailed and get good results. All things being equal I still think the 400mm gives a AF advantage. https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php?t=1203740
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Diver-Down THREAD STARTER Senior Member 275 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2008 Location: Bethlehem PA More info | May 04, 2009 06:44 | #22 morehtml wrote in post #7852511 I just took a shot you can compare to your camera using my 50D and 400mm. I put a $20 bill 161 inches from camera and used flash becasue its dark here. "Standard" style in camera jpg straight out of camera. http://www.allensvisions.com/pics/IMG_1415.JPG I just measured where I was shooting and my shot was about twice as far (27 feet or 324 inches) looks very sharp but probably not good for me to compare to.
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May 04, 2009 06:54 | #23 Design wrote in post #7852062 I have also been going round and round with the same dilemma. I have been considering buying the 300mm F2.8 or the F4, but some have given me the advice to stay with the 100-400. It sure is nice to have the versatility of the zoom. If the tracking and sharpness is that much better I will switch. These were all taken with the 100-400. Do we just have a great copy?
AdamJL wrote in post #5948424 F/A-18 Super Hornet ![]() ^ You should see the full size version of that shot. Ridiculously sharp. Sharp, thy name is 300 f/2.8 www.zivnuska.zenfolio.com/blog
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Diver-Down THREAD STARTER Senior Member 275 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2008 Location: Bethlehem PA More info | May 04, 2009 17:19 | #24 condyk wrote in post #7854109 EDIT: there's a very good thread offering BIF techniques here: click Good luck! Whats the "category" and "thread title" I can't seem to find it there, or maybe I have to be logged in ?
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nightcat Goldmember 4,533 posts Likes: 28 Joined Aug 2008 More info | May 04, 2009 19:17 | #25 I'm a prime lens guy and believe that the primes outperform zooms. That said, in the last few months, I've seen some incredible photos on this website... birds, nature, etc. I make a point of asking what lens was used (if its not posted). A surprising # of these shots ended up being taken with the 100-400mm. I still love primes the best, but that 100-400mm is one great lens!
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condyk Africa's #1 Tour Guide 20,887 posts Likes: 22 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK More info | May 05, 2009 01:21 | #26 Diver-Down wrote in post #7857711 Whats the "category" and "thread title" I can't seem to find it there, or maybe I have to be logged in ? Yeah, I just checked and seems you have to be a member to see the full forum. Sorry about that. Anyway, would be useful to join just to read that thread if you're struggling with BIF. I don't remember such a useful thread here but there may be one - try a search if you haven't done so already.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php?t=1203740
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malla1962 Cream of the Crop 7,714 posts Likes: 5 Joined Jul 2004 Location: Walney Island,cumbria,uk More info | I have had 2 100-400's and were both very sharp, not used a 400f5.6 but my 100-400 was plenty sharp enough for birds in flight.
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RPCrowe Cream of the Crop More info | Here's some from my 400mm f/5.6L See my images at http://rpcrowe.smugmug.com/
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jaybird perverted infatuation with ducks 810 posts Joined Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada More info | May 05, 2009 08:48 | #29 I have both the 100-400 and the 400. I find the AF on the 400 prime to be a lot faster than the zoom. The 400 is also a little tougher than the zoom. My 100-400 needs to be sent to Canon for calibration. It's taken a few too many knocks on safari and focus is a little inconsistent now. ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
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