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Apr 22, 2005 12:37 |  #1

I know, I know, I know already... many don't like selective color photos, this post is for those who do like it or want to try it ;)

I use selective color once in a while and wanted to see the difference between running an PS Action to do it or just using an Hue/Saturation Layer to do it.

I like the 1st one I ran the Action on more than the 2nd one that was just a desat job. The desat one make Ani's skin look really splotchy.

How do you do selective color?

I made a small Action that lets me use a Brush on a Mask instead of the History Brush. Much more control on what happens. I just run the Action and choose the size Brush I want and make it medium soft and start painting the color back in, if I make a mistake, I just hit the X key on the keyboard and paint the color back out (undo the mistake) and hit X again and continue on. Can change the Opacity of the brush at any time.
If you want to try the action and tell me if it works the way it should it is here:

http://www.mrchevy.com​/MrChevyB&WwithColor.a​tn (external link)

I have and use all kinds of Action files from many different places and put ideas from them together with my ideas into ones that do what I wish them to do.

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Using an Hue/Desaturation by itself make her skin too blotchy/splotchy I think.

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Apr 22, 2005 12:55 |  #2

Sorry, I like the picture and I like a black & white with some artfully applied color, but I really don't like this one. Part is that you seem to have overshot the area of the lip where the lipstick goes. The other part of it is the color, it is too bright. A darker tint might look better.

I know your post is not about the picture, per se, but I guess a better example of the technique might make it more inviting.




  
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Apr 22, 2005 13:30 as a reply to  @ Vetteography's post |  #3

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Sorry, I like the picture and I like a black & white with some artfully applied color, but I really don't like this one. Part is that you seem to have overshot the area of the lip where the lipstick goes.

Guess you will have to take that up with Ani, since she is the one that put the lipstick on. I am not applying color, I am un-covering the original color that is there already in the color photo. Notice I didn't go past the lipstick like you think I did.

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The other part of it is the color, it is too bright. A darker tint might look better.

This is not a "colorized" B&W photo. I haven't changed the color of the lipstick.

I know your post is not about the picture, per se, but I guess a better example of the technique might make it more inviting.

Maybe you are thinking about colorized photos vs ones with selective color?

Thanks for the comment, all feed back is apprecitated.

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Apr 22, 2005 14:05 |  #4

I like it, the red really stands out.


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Apr 22, 2005 14:08 as a reply to  @ MrChevy's post |  #5

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i dont like this one, it looks like she ate some spaghetti without a fork. i think what everyone has a problem with is the fact that the color that shows through is so drastic against teh B&W, that it appears fake. i for one like the original, or maybe if you just took this one with her natural lip color, as that would be plenty of contrast.


  
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Apr 22, 2005 15:02 as a reply to  @ MrChevy's post |  #6

MrChevy wrote:
This is not a "colorized" B&W photo. I haven't changed the color of the lipstick.



Maybe you are thinking about colorized photos vs ones with selective color?

Thanks for the comment, all feed back is apprecitated.
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Sorry about that, I guess I misunderstood.




  
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Apr 22, 2005 17:06 as a reply to  @ Michaelmjc's post |  #7

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I like it, the red really stands out.

That it does! Thanks for looking Michael :)


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Apr 22, 2005 17:12 as a reply to  @ smittymike19's post |  #8

smittymike19 wrote:
i dont like this one, it looks like she ate some spaghetti without a fork. i think what everyone has a problem with is the fact that the color that shows through is so drastic against teh B&W, that it appears fake. i for one like the original, or maybe if you just took this one with her natural lip color, as that would be plenty of contrast.

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This is just a crop of the above which was made from the original below, which was in this thread:

http://www.photography​-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=68415

By the original are you talking about this one smittymike19?

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Thanks for the comments!
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Apr 22, 2005 17:22 |  #9

Now that's a photo! The BW with color, even though its real, is just too contrasty for me. Love the original though.




  
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Apr 22, 2005 17:48 |  #10

Thanks Drew :)


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Apr 22, 2005 17:49 as a reply to  @ drewmk2's post |  #11

sorry , i do like selective colour but this don`t work for me , i think maybe leaving the face bw and selecting the blue top may work better *but i maybe wrong*




  
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Apr 22, 2005 18:23 |  #12

When I do selective coloring I always fade or desaturate the color so it doesn't stand out as much against the B&W. Although, I know from all of your other posts you are fond of vibrant colors and like them to really pop!




  
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Apr 22, 2005 22:36 |  #13

i like it, it's fun.


  
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Apr 23, 2005 04:07 |  #14

I think your original (full colour) picture looks far better. It's a really nice picture. But if you want to go with the selective colour one I would fade the colour in the lips way down so it shows as just a hint of red. Maybe do the same thing with the blue of the dress.



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Apr 23, 2005 04:23 |  #15

I prefer the original, very beautiful. Why not try fading the red a little as a couple of people have mentioned. It just seems too bright. I do like these kind of photos so try some more and repost.


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