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May 17, 2009 03:18 |  #1

Hey Guys,

A friend of mine wanted some portraits taken as he wants to apply for work as an extra in films.

So, packed up my gear, and headed of to the park with a remote controlled tripod for fill light tinkering. (Just got my lighting gear in the mail!)

This is my first attempt at manipulating light sources etc so any advice is much appreciated!

Was trying to show how "dynamic" he can be, but will most likely head out next weekend for attempt #2 to fix up issues that you guys mention here!!!

#1

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In #4, you can see my arms shadow on his face, as the sun was behind me. Is there any way of fixing this in PP? (Should probably just reshoot and take 2 steps to the right...)

Also, his eyelashes tend to drop these shadows outwards as well.
Hmmm....

So, any CC much appreciated.


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May 17, 2009 12:15 |  #2

I'm still a rookie so take what I say with caution. I think number one could use a bounce board to fill the left side of his face, also maybe not such a tight crop so his hair doesn't get cut off.

The rest look a little strange and I think that's because of his expression. It looks like he's really trying to hold his eyes as wide open as he can and looks very odd to me.He looks very unnatural to me in most of the shots.


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May 17, 2009 18:08 |  #3

He does tend to look unnatural in real life too! ;)

Hmm, #5 seems way too soft looking at it this morning.... geez.

Thanks for the input ;)

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May 18, 2009 04:11 |  #4

#3 looks the most natural to me


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May 18, 2009 19:01 |  #5

No other comments/cc?

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May 18, 2009 20:38 as a reply to  @ RMXSeven's post |  #6

I don't see alot of "dynamic".I just don't see "comfortable".get him looser than this.himself but ready for the shot coming?

Watch the up the nose shots, not complementary to anyone.;)

Also, some color in his shirt would help bring out his eyes.blue/green, but a solid.


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May 19, 2009 09:51 as a reply to  @ Flo's post |  #7

As for me, number one is the winner.
This because it does not feel so "static" and "emotionless" as the rest of the pictures.

Number two is just a pose.

Number three can go through although I don't really "get" the image.

Number four is just "strange" for me, wy is he in this "attack" mode? what is his purpose of this?

number five and six doesn't appeal to me in any way and his face is OOF.

Number seven: The cell phone should be out of his pocket, this looks a bit strange (although we all know what it is, I don't think we want to see it in a picture) and his face is also OOF.

Number eight is just strange with his eye's wide open.


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May 19, 2009 09:51 |  #8

#2's the only one I like.

#1: needs to shave those white hairs under his lower lip... really puts me off... plus both eyes need to be sharp. Lighting from a higher angle might work better.

#3 looks a bit soft.

#4 comes closest to conveying some alternative emotion, but - from the perspective of a martial arts instructor - I'd laugh at anyone threatening me with a stick held like that.

#5 makes him look like he's stoned.

#6 is fine as a photo but doesn't communicate much.

#7 has exposure issues.

#8 looks contrived, as if he's pointedly widened his eyes without moving his mouth.

In a few of them, his eyes look soft and filmy somehow even when the lashes are reasonably sharp... I'd use a touch of selective sharpening so there's more there for the viewer to settle on.

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May 19, 2009 10:58 |  #9

Awesome,

I'll reshoot this weekend and give it another bash.

Thanks for the CC guys.

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May 19, 2009 11:28 as a reply to  @ RMXSeven's post |  #10

Please don't forget to show us the images from the second shoot when they are available.

I think most people have covered the type of comments I would have made. I'm no expert but would say to try and get your friend to relax and for you to engage with him during the shoot to take the 'forced' look off the pictures. Also your lighting looks very hard - did you use bare flash?




  
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May 19, 2009 11:55 |  #11

i like the idea and look of #7, but the contrasst and ratios are off the charts. The rest look forced and at times a bit psychotic.


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May 19, 2009 18:30 |  #12

SAB_Click wrote in post #7950368 (external link)
Please don't forget to show us the images from the second shoot when they are available.

But of course!
That's what learning is all about ;)

SAB_Click wrote in post #7950368 (external link)
...Also your lighting looks very hard - did you use bare flash?

On the first few, I shot through a semi-transparent diffuser panel.
Then, it became a little hard to juggle due to wind, so I used a diffuser thats inbuilt into my flash, and a reflector card (Also build into flash).

#7 was direct flash, its kinda the feel I was after. For me, the High contrast adds to the "surrealness". But, I probably went a little over-board.

Also just learnt how to dodge/burn in Aperture (Sooo easy with the new plugin), So with the next batch, I'll give them the once over with PP. (Selective sharpening etc is also new to this plugin, so I'll do that too!)

We'll have more time this weekend (assuming it doesn't rain) so It won't be as rushed.
Maybe I'll try converse with him more.... But you know what they say about assuming.... It makes an ASS out of yoU and ME!

Thanks again for CC.

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