Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
Thread started 17 May 2009 (Sunday) 05:21
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Lens 'Overlapping'?

 
Joshua14321
Senior Member
Avatar
583 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Feb 2009
     
May 17, 2009 05:21 |  #1

What does it mean when you have lenses that are overlaping?

Is it like if I have a 100-400L and I have a 70-200 does that mean I have overlaping lenses?

~Josh




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SCOTTinNJ
Senior Member
Avatar
550 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2007
     
May 17, 2009 05:29 |  #2

You overlap 100-200 in that case. No big deal.


Fuji X-T1

9 | 18 | 23 | 50
18-55 | 55-200
35 manual | 50 vintage

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dolina
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,636 posts
Gallery: 749 photos
Likes: 3142
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Philippines
     
May 17, 2009 06:33 |  #3

if i had a 100-400 i'd buy a 24-105 to minimize overlapping


Visit my Flickr (external link), Facebook (external link) & 500px (external link) and see my photos. :)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JeffreyG
"my bits and pieces are all hard"
Avatar
15,540 posts
Gallery: 42 photos
Likes: 619
Joined Jan 2007
Location: Detroit, MI
     
May 17, 2009 06:37 |  #4

Joshua Bowden wrote in post #7936504 (external link)
What does it mean when you have lenses that are overlaping?

Is it like if I have a 100-400L and I have a 70-200 does that mean I have overlaping lenses?

~Josh

The focal length ranges overlap. This does not mean that the lenses are redundant, especially if the 70-200 is a f/2.8 version of the lens.

Often the maximum aperture of a lens is just as important as the focal length. If it wasn't, hardly anyone would own prime lenses within the ranges of the zooms that they have.


My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/​photos/jngirbach/sets/ (external link)
I use a Canon 5DIII and a Sony A7rIII

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
timnosenzo
Cream of the Crop
8,833 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Sep 2005
Location: CT
     
May 17, 2009 06:46 |  #5

I wouldn't worry about overlap too much--just buy the lenses you need. Now, if you were to buy a 17-55 and a 17-40, that would be a waste, but if you had a 24-105 and a 70-200, personally I wouldn't worry about the overlapping 35mm (and I don't).


connecticut wedding photographer (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EcoRick
Goldmember
1,863 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
     
May 17, 2009 06:59 as a reply to  @ timnosenzo's post |  #6

When I first started looking at lenses I was worried about overlap. Now, I don't care about it since each lens serves a purpose. I have overlap in the 24-105L and 70-200L, yet I use each lens in different situations. Some posts will say get the 24-70L and 70-200L to cover all ranges and avoid overlap, but I wouldn't want to carry all those lenses.


Gear: Canon 1Ds MkII, 35L, 85L, 135L, 24-105L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
The ­ Moose
Cream of the Crop
5,106 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jan 2009
     
May 17, 2009 07:05 |  #7

As EcoRick said, each lens serves it purpose and you'll get overlapping in the Canon lineup of zooms. For example: 16-35 or 17-40, 24-70, 70-200, 100-400. The wider two and the longer two overlap. Take a look at the Nikon lineup and it goes 14-24, 24-70, 70-200. They've built their lens lineup with no overlaps while Canon is a bit different but not inferior because of it.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
n1as
Goldmember
2,330 posts
Likes: 25
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Salem, OR
     
May 17, 2009 07:14 |  #8

The opposite of overlap is gaps. In my case, I go 17-40 then 70-200. The gap from 40 to 70 exists but so far hasn't been a problem. I'd much prefer to have overlap though.

Overlap does bother me to a degree. For instance, I have a 70-200 plus 2 primes; 85, 135. You'd think that would mean that the primes were not needed but they do things the zoom just does not do (and vise versa) so all 3 lens have a place in my collection.

I'd love to downsize to just the zooms, but it wouldn't work for what I shoot so I need to have these primes.


- Keith
http://darwinphoto.zen​folio.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gasrocks
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
13,432 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Mar 2005
Location: Portage, Wisconsin USA
     
May 17, 2009 08:42 |  #9

I used to try and be efficient and avoid overlap and gaps as well, Now I have discovered that a person can have more than one lens of a certain length because they might produce different looks. Specialized tools. Look at my gear list and yes, I am selling some and trying to cut down a bit.


GEAR LIST
_______________

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
wizard13
Goldmember
Avatar
1,169 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Apr 2006
Location: Western NY
     
May 17, 2009 08:47 |  #10

Sometimes overlap is unavoidable. The lenses can have different functions even in the same focal length. I have the 70-200 and the 100-400, hence overlap. But the 70-200 is 2.8IS and used for weddings and the 100-400 has an aperture of 5.6 on the 400 end, so more for birding and nature. You just need to see what the use of a lens if for yourself and not necessarily worry about overlap.


Photography = a constant learning process
Website (external link) || Facebook (external link) || Gear/Feedback

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rick ­ Anderson
Senior Member
Avatar
565 posts
Likes: 16
Joined Apr 2007
     
May 17, 2009 09:13 as a reply to  @ wizard13's post |  #11

The overlapping is very useful to me because I have three camera bodies with three different crop factors. When I'm working in a dusty environment I like to switch bodies, rather than lenses, so combining bodies and lenses ahead of time gives me a fairly linear focal range.

However, if you are working with one body or crop factor, overlapping focal ranges can be a waste of money unless there are specific effects you are looking for.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bohdank
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
14,060 posts
Likes: 6
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Montreal, Canada
     
May 17, 2009 10:19 |  #12

Some overlap is good, since it mininizes lens changes, I find.


Bohdan - I may be, and probably am, completely wrong.
Gear List

Montreal Concert, Event and Portrait Photographer (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ed ­ rader
"I am not the final word"
Avatar
23,393 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 578
Joined May 2005
Location: silicon valley
     
May 17, 2009 10:24 |  #13

[QUOTE=timnosenzo;7936​682]I wouldn't worry about overlap too much--just buy the lenses you need. Now, if you were to buy a 17-55 and a 17-40, that would be a waste, but if you had a 24-105 and a 70-200, personally I wouldn't worry about the overlapping 35mm (and I don't).[/quote]

i remember someone once said they would buy the 24-70L instead to avoid overlap :rolleyes:.

ed rader


http://instagram.com/e​draderphotography/ (external link)
5D4 x2, 16-35L F4 IS, 24-70L II, 70-200L F4 IS II, 100-400L II, 14L II, sigma 15 FE, sigma 28 f1.4 art, tc 1.4 III, 430exII, gitzo 3542L + markins Q20, gitzo GT 1545T + markins Q3T, gitzo GM4562

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Duncan ­ Frenz
Purposely evaded the TF
Avatar
1,553 posts
Joined Jan 2009
Location: NE Ohio, USA
     
May 17, 2009 10:34 |  #14

bohdank wrote in post #7937278 (external link)
Some overlap is good, since it mininizes lens changes, I find.

I totally agree. For instance if one were at Disney World you might use a 24-105 all day, but then use a 24-70 or 17-55 at night for low light and/or fireworks. A 70-200 is great for a ton of things but is a bit short for serious birding, but a 100-400 would do nicely and I'd hate to give up the flexibility of that extra 100mm to avoid overlap. Plus that 100 mm is handy for spotting birds and then zooming in. If you can afford to build a kit so you have the tools you need to minimize changing lenses to get the shot that might have got away or at least would make it better because of a few mm, overlap is quite handy.


- Duncan
Gear_Mor
e than I need, Less than I want
Nonconformists are all alike.
I am not an expert, but I play one on the internet.:D

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
timnosenzo
Cream of the Crop
8,833 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Sep 2005
Location: CT
     
May 17, 2009 10:48 |  #15

ed rader wrote in post #7937295 (external link)
i remember someone once said they would buy the 24-70L instead to avoid overlap :rolleyes:.

ed rader

Are you rolling your eyes because I said that? If that's the case, I don't remember saying it, but I may have. Now I know better and I don't worry about it.


connecticut wedding photographer (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,605 views & 0 likes for this thread, 17 members have posted to it.
Lens 'Overlapping'?
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Marcsaa
762 guests, 142 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.