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May 18, 2009 20:01 |  #16

ever since using the products that Nicholas sells i stopped using canned air, but when i did i only used canned air that was 40% depleted......by doing so you almost eliminate any chance of shooting propellant unless of course you tilt the can.
the reason i stopped using it was my bad experience with my 20D in which it blew stuff up into the viewfinder.
the copperhill method is by far the best way to clean a sensor.


  
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May 18, 2009 20:48 |  #17

summerwind4 wrote in post #7946425 (external link)
ever since using the products that Nicholas sells i stopped using canned air, but when i did i only used canned air that was 40% depleted......by doing so you almost eliminate any chance of shooting propellant unless of course you tilt the can.
the reason i stopped using it was my bad experience with my 20D in which it blew stuff up into the viewfinder.
the copperhill method is by far the best way to clean a sensor.

damn i wanted to try blowing the air up there.. way too much dust


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May 18, 2009 21:06 |  #18

Neat video. Probably still a good idea for people uncomfortable with doing stuff like this to avoid blowing high pressure air inside their cameras, but good to know that if you're careful its OK to do it. :)


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May 18, 2009 23:11 as a reply to  @ timnosenzo's post |  #19

datadump wrote in post #7945368 (external link)
you guys use canned air to clean sensors?!?!

Yep. All the time...

Nicholas R. wrote in post #7946065 (external link)
No. It's not a corrosive like sulphuric or murietic acid. Heck, am I the only one who's ever sprayed it accidentally on my hands? Maybe I am:oops:.

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I've been using it for cleaning cameras since the stuff first came on the market. I'm sure I've sprayed it on my hands once or twice in all that time...


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May 18, 2009 23:58 |  #20
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Am I missing something here? Why would anyone want to use liquified gas air cans on their cameras? THis video should be romoved as you should not use this to clean camera sensors.


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May 19, 2009 00:11 |  #21

pastanley wrote in post #7947918 (external link)
Am I missing something here? Why would anyone want to use liquified gas air cans on their cameras? THis video should be romoved as you should not use this to clean camera sensors.

Tell that to the Canon techs ;)


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May 19, 2009 00:19 |  #22

pastanley wrote in post #7947918 (external link)
Am I missing something here? Why would anyone want to use liquified gas air cans on their cameras? THis video should be romoved as you should not use this to clean camera sensors.

Because it does a much better job of removing stubborn dust than a Rocket Blower. I tried the Rocket Blower and it just didn't do the job. It does make a great cat toy, though.

If you follow the precautions laid out in the video, "canned air" is perfectly safe for cleaning sensors. As I said above, I've been using it to clean cameras since it first came on the market and so have a lot of other photographers. I've used it to clean the sensors of three different DSLRs and all three are still perfectly functional and all take great pictures.


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May 19, 2009 06:17 |  #23

pastanley wrote in post #7947918 (external link)
Am I missing something here? Why would anyone want to use liquified gas air cans on their cameras? THis video should be romoved as you should not use this to clean camera sensors.

pastanley,

We all have to decide which tools fit our "comfort level" and no one is castigating you for your opinion. However, the caveat for myself and others is to use canned-air on our sensors if or when the Rocket blower fails to remove big chunks of debris. Then and only then will I reach for it. I have personal experience of getting propellant on the AA-filter and, contrary to the folklore, it did not eat a hole in it and render it DOA. It cleaned up very easily with Eclipse.

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May 19, 2009 07:29 |  #24

pastanley wrote in post #7947918 (external link)
Am I missing something here? Why would anyone want to use liquified gas air cans on their cameras? THis video should be romoved as you should not use this to clean camera sensors.

While I agree that skilled technicians who are fully aware of the potential problems with using so-called "canned air" in cameras can use the products without problems, I am very much against a general suggestion to all who visit this forum (and others like it) to use the products in their cameras.

There are tools for all sorts of tasks that not everyone is (or ever could be) qualified to use. Thus, recommending these tools across the board is a mistake in my opinion.


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May 19, 2009 08:16 |  #25

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While I agree that skilled technicians who are fully aware of the potential problems with using so-called "canned air" in cameras can use the products without problems, I am very much against a general suggestion to all who visit this forum (and others like it) to use the products in their cameras.

There are tools for all sorts of tasks that not everyone is (or ever could be) qualified to use. Thus, recommending these tools across the board is a mistake in my opinion.

Skip,

AFAIK, no one has said that everyone should use canned-air or wet tools to clean their sensors. I believe that the plethora of information on sensor cleaning on this and other forums is sufficient enough for the casual D-SLR user to make up his or her own mind on how to proceed. And you're missing the mantra that says: "If you're unsure of your abilities to use the same tools that other people have chosen to use, then, by all means, don't take the risk, just send your camera to the manufacturer for cleaning."

But, moreover, you seem to be painting a worst-case FUD/scenario that simply doesn't exist. Again, get propellant on the sensor, clean it off with Eclipse. It won't eat a hole in a sensor and that is what you're implying. Posting the video by Falcon, one of the best canned-air manufacturers, is in my mind a comprehensive tutorial on how to safely use the product. There is a "universal" caution about ALL sensor cleaning tools that everyone should be well aware of by now.

True story: When sensor brushes first hit the D-SLR arena, there was a fellow over at dpreview who asked for guidance in charging his brush with canned-air. He just couldn't understand his problem, after all, he used an entire full can to charge the brush. Yep, he pulled the trigger and held it there until the can was emptied. All you have to do is watch the Falcon video one time and you'll know exactly what to do and what not to do.

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May 19, 2009 08:33 |  #26

I've used canned air to clean my sensors, but it's not much better than a puffer. Most sensor dust needs a wet clean anyway.


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May 19, 2009 12:44 |  #27

Nicholas R. wrote in post #7949260 (external link)
AFAIK, no one has said that everyone should use canned-air or wet tools to clean their sensors.

What I was referring to in my previous post is related to the many suggestions by folks in the forum here to use "canned air" with absolutely no reference to the potential problems or how to properly use the products.

As an example of the potential problems - according to what I have read as warnings on some cans, the stuff can damage the mirror and plastic parts in an SLR if it comes into contact with them as a liquid.


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May 19, 2009 14:20 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #28

SkipD wrote in post #7949125 (external link)
While I agree that skilled technicians who are fully aware of the potential problems with using so-called "canned air" in cameras can use the products without problems, I am very much against a general suggestion to all who visit this forum (and others like it) to use the products in their cameras.

There are tools for all sorts of tasks that not everyone is (or ever could be) qualified to use. Thus, recommending these tools across the board is a mistake in my opinion.

At no time in my post was I advocating everyone use the canned air on their sensors. I was stating what worked best for me. If someone inquires about what they should use, then I'll make recommendations and if I mention canned air, I do so with the codicil that it's not for everyone and differing opinions about it's use can be found. It is up to the individual whether they feel comfortable using it or not.


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May 19, 2009 14:40 |  #29

scary stuff

in any case, copperhill wet solution works best for me so i'll just stick with that, plus bulb blower


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May 19, 2009 16:38 |  #30

Jeez, that thing is about as dangerous as a loaded .357 magnum.


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