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D3 vs MkIII @ 25600 ISO

 
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May 29, 2009 00:56 |  #1

MkIII were taken at 6400, then pushed +2 and then NR using Pixmantras action

D3 were taken at 25600 in LR with max NR applied and in straight JPG with High ISO NR on in camera.

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May 29, 2009 01:02 |  #2

That's not quite fair - as the MkIII was pushed in PP.

Try is with the Ds3 or the 5DII if you can?




  
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May 29, 2009 01:13 |  #3

roastpuff wrote in post #8009409 (external link)
That's not quite fair - as the MkIII was pushed in PP.

Try is with the Ds3 or the 5DII if you can?

Anything is fair. The D3 was 'pushed' in camera. Its simply an illustration showing what two cameras do when trying to achieve the same output.


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May 29, 2009 01:16 |  #4

something is messed up.... why does D3's RAW look like crap? total plastic. D3's jpeg looks more usable than its own RAW....

also, are you sure u did the pixmantra NR correctly? it doesnt seem to have the same charactistics of the types of results that i get from pixmantras action... u used the custom pf2 in RIT or LR 's preset?

hmmmmm


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May 29, 2009 03:07 |  #5

Adam,

Are you shooting Nikon now?

I used to shoot at 25,600 ISO all the time with the D3 and loved it. I used black and white with it and it looked just like film to me. Great camera that D3


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May 29, 2009 05:44 |  #6

Both look pretty awful.


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May 29, 2009 06:23 |  #7

can i ask a dumb Q? yeah i can coz i am right now :) whats RIT -ive seen it in relation to PIX NR a few times.... (of which i want to be able to do the action) seems knowing what this is is pretty vital to the whole thing :)


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May 29, 2009 07:19 |  #8

You can't use FlexNR for ISO25,600 without my know-how...

...and much less with DPP...

However, you can use it to LEARN about the specific image, and work your way through it.

In fact, let us take this example and work trhough it, step by step. Please, send me the MKIII raw file to ixmantra@myacc.net (external link) (use www.yousendit.com (external link)), and, I will explain you (and post) how to get the best out of this scene with the 1D3.

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AdamLewis wrote in post #8009390 (external link)
MkIII were taken at 6400, then pushed +2 and then NR using Pixmantras action

D3 were taken at 25600 in LR with max NR applied and in straight JPG with High ISO NR on in camera.

Shots taken from the same place in my house and both cameras had 70-200/2.8 lenses shooting wide open

MkIII full frame
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MkIII 100% crop
QUOTED IMAGE

D3 JPG full frame
QUOTED IMAGE
D3 JPG 100% crop
QUOTED IMAGE

D3 raw full frame

D3 raw 100% crop


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May 29, 2009 08:04 |  #9

Sauk wrote in post #8009873 (external link)
Adam,

Are you shooting Nikon now?

I used to shoot at 25,600 ISO all the time with the D3 and loved it. I used black and white with it and it looked just like film to me. Great camera that D3

I may be. Right now, I just have one on loan for a few weeks. Trying it all out. Hell, Id even use 25600 in color. My stuff just goes in the paper so thats more than fine for me.

timnosenzo wrote in post #8010154 (external link)
Both look pretty awful.

Everyones got different standards. Im actually REALLY impressed at how well Pixmantra's action works (even if I am using it incorrectly :( )

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...and much less with DPP...

However, you can use it to LEARN about the specific image, and work your way through it.

In fact, let us take this example and work trhough it, step by step. Please, send me the MKIII raw file to ixmantra@myacc.net (external link) (use www.yousendit.com (external link)), and, I will explain you (and post) how to get the best out of this scene with the 1D3.

Cheers,

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May 29, 2009 08:27 as a reply to  @ AdamLewis's post |  #10

here is one I took at 25,600 ISO. I did not get it printed but my Aunt did and she said it looked great. I love the film like look of the image. As I said I would use it all the time to get images like this.

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May 29, 2009 08:49 |  #11

Looking forward to it!

AdamLewis wrote in post #8010624 (external link)
Everyones got different standards. Im actually REALLY impressed at how well Pixmantra's action works (even if I am using it incorrectly :( )


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May 29, 2009 08:54 |  #12

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...Let's have some fun! :)

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I tried sending just the raw through gmail and it said it was over your allowable inbox limit or something. So I just rar'ed it and sent it again and havent gotten an error


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May 29, 2009 08:55 |  #13

Well...I take that back. I just got this error..

This is the Postfix program at host mail.myacc.net.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The Postfix program

<pixmantra@myacc.net>: can't create user output file. Command output: procmail:
Error while writing to "/var/spool/mail/p/i/p​ixmantra"

Final-Recipient: rfc822; pixmantra@myacc.net (external link)
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; can't create user output file. Command output:
procmail: Error while writing to "/var/spool/mail/p/i/p​ixmantra"


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May 29, 2009 09:08 |  #14

Try the following addresses...

AdamLewis wrote in post #8010836 (external link)
Well...I take that back. I just got this error..

1. eharmat@gmail.com (external link)
2. eharmat@hotmail.com (external link)

You should not have any problems, as I have received a lot of information on all of them.

BTW: use WWW.YOUSENDIT.COM (external link). Much better for this purpose (I received yesterday a 30D, right through this service). You can use ANY of my addresses, above.

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May 29, 2009 09:18 |  #15

More and more convinced that the high ISO differences between 2 cameras are overrated. D3 just looks like a heavily NR'ed version of the 1D3 file...less detail...less noise.


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