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Thread started 29 May 2009 (Friday) 11:50
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POLL: "what is the quality of the glass"
E Lens Glass very clean - cosmetically may show slight wear and/or signs of use.
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E- Shows signs of moderate use - Lens Glass is perfect but may have some dust which will not affect picture quality.
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V Appears well used and may include dings, brassing, scrapes and bruises but is in fully functional condition. Glass may have marks or haze that should not affect picture quality.
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G Appears to have been used very heavily with multiple dings, scrapes, scratches and heavy brassing. Glass may have fungus, excessive dust and/or scratches that can affect picture quality.
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May 29, 2009 11:50 |  #1

ok so I purchased a used lens, I will not say what the quality was rated at yet as I want to hear what others say

here it is, now tell me by Adorama / B&H stds what you would rate this

now let me add that these small specs are all around the outside of the lens, I have only taken a couple pics and it does not seem to effect it but I have never seen anything like this before

for what its worth its not the front element, its the 2nd piece of glass behind it, there is absolutely no way of cleaning it without taking that first piece of glass out which means I would have to send it to canon

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May 29, 2009 11:52 |  #2

Send it back. ughhhhh.


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May 29, 2009 12:45 |  #3

That looks to be a greatly magnified image of the dust. I bet it is not really that bad and you won't notice it in images. So I rated it E-


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May 29, 2009 13:00 |  #4

tkbslc wrote in post #8012154 (external link)
That looks to be a greatly magnified image of the dust. I bet it is not really that bad and you won't notice it in images. So I rated it E-

it looks like with the naked eye ;) seriously it can been seen no problem all around the outside ring, on the center its not so bad

this is a 500L so its a pretty big front element, I took that pic with a 5D + 100 Macro


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May 29, 2009 13:03 |  #5

Barring any external wear, looks like an E- to me. If banged up, a G.


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May 29, 2009 13:09 as a reply to  @ tekkie's post |  #6

With this image, the best one can conclude is an E-. The amount of dust does seem excessive, but I don't have any experience with the big L's. Assuming that's a 500 f/4, I'd be a little miffed too I think. I'm guessing the minimum service fee on that is probably around $200+.

How much did you save vs. new?


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May 29, 2009 13:11 |  #7

tekkie wrote in post #8012215 (external link)
it looks like with the naked eye ;) seriously it can been seen no problem all around the outside ring, on the center its not so bad

this is a 500L so its a pretty big front element, I took that pic with a 5D + 100 Macro

Still to be actual sized on even a small monitor, that would have to be at least a 24" front element.


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May 29, 2009 13:20 |  #8

tkbslc wrote in post #8012270 (external link)
Still to be actual sized on even a small monitor, that would have to be at least a 24" front element.

yes obviously but the point is I did not have to magnify anything to see that dust I can see it with my eyes very easily ;)

as soon as I took it out of the box and looked I went holy crap, to me it doesnt even look like dust it looks like the glass is pitted but I could be wrong

anyone know how much canon charges to fix that?


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May 29, 2009 15:35 |  #9

ok so I am not off my rocker, I was told this was an E, which to me means there maybe a couple small specs but not a few thousand of them :)


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May 29, 2009 16:22 |  #10

Totaly normal, Canon wont even entertain the idea of fixing that which they orignally passed when it left their facility. All my L lenses have dust and bubbles in the elements.


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May 29, 2009 18:10 |  #11

kingdaddy wrote in post #8013284 (external link)
Totaly normal, Canon wont even entertain the idea of fixing that which they orignally passed when it left their facility. All my L lenses have dust and bubbles in the elements.

I have had 7 L lenses besides this one and not one of them has this issue


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May 29, 2009 18:25 as a reply to  @ tekkie's post |  #12

I saw once something like this on a brand new Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX. Didn't affect IQ but it looked weird.


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May 29, 2009 21:13 |  #13

Based on the dust an E-. If the body is banged up a G.


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May 29, 2009 21:29 |  #14

It will affect image quality only when you shoot into the light. If the lens barrel is oay, and no other signs of damage, then I vote E-.


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May 29, 2009 22:26 |  #15
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How much you paid for it? Call up Canon to see if the lens can be cleaned and for how much? See if it may cost the same as new after all the service you need to have it done. For the life of me, I have no idea how on earth dust can get inside the 500L. Mine has no dust but is only less than a year old. By the way, post some shots....The final image quality may negate whatever dust the lens has....:)


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