Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L

One more test shot...

This one just playing with the shift control to bring more of the ground into the picture and a 90 degree rotated tilt to correct the outer vertical lines.

The Ghost of FM wrote in post #9897513
One more test shot...

This one just playing with the shift control to bring more of the ground into the picture and a 90 degree rotated tilt to correct the vertical lines.

I think you may be mistaken with that, Tilt/Swing only affects the plane of focus, not perspective control which is only controlled by shift!

Here is a shot with the TS-E 17mm , along with an image with the 17mm lens plus TC 1.4 extender . You can see by looking carefully at the background right on the comparison shots that the camera hasn't moved so the perspective is the same and only the magnification has changed. Even the overlap of the leaves on the barge-board is the same.
So all of you 17mm owners, at least for less than totally critical work, join the 24mm club.
Actually, that TS-E 24 is so incredibly sharp you probably would notice a difference, but only in big pics I think. (Certainly not, as in Ghost of FM's last image, if you're going to use the "Paint effect"!.)

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Here's another with the 1.4 extender...in full resolution it is very sharp. I didn't help matters by leaving the ISO on 800 for all three of those pics so they should even be a little better, though the 5d2 does pretty well with moderate ISOs.

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EdBray wrote in post #9897652
I think you may be mistaken with that, Tilt/Swing only affects the plane of focus, not perspective control which is only controlled by shift!

Within the plane of focus range, there is movement of the objects in the field of view and those objects on the outer areas of the frame have the most amount of movement. So, outer edge vertical lines can be affected by use of the tilt control. I have also noticed that when shooting centered and squared to a room, this same control adjustment will effect the squareness of the far end of the room's wall that the lens is facing and within that adjustment, the top and bottom horizontal roof and floor lines do teeter/totter away from true as the control is adjusted.

I should have included the word, outer, in my original post though, when I was describing the adjustment so apologies for any confusion of what I meant to say.

Cheers!

Ricardo222 wrote in post #9898304
Here's another with the 1.4 extender...in full resolution it is very sharp. I didn't help matters by leaving the ISO on 800 for all three of those pics so they should even be a little better, though the 5d2 does pretty well with moderate ISOs.

That looks acceptably sharp to me.

Good stuff!

Cheers!

djharmonix wrote in post #9897034
The TC is on top of the list, I shoot at F8-13 all the time so max aperture is no big deal.

I need very very wide angle for work but for landscape I find that 24 is a better
view.

The only annoying thing is that the addition of the TC is not recorded in the EXIF of any images. You have to take notes or guess when you use it It says a lot about the lack of any real world drop-off in quality that, most of the time, I really can't tell if my 17mm has the Kenko attached.

And given me other half has nicked my new 24mm TS-E II .. it is a darn good job it does work!

95% of my work is for real estate agent, they use the pictures in 1000x1000px resolution on the web. As I am shooting on tripod at F11, I'm pretty sure the quality stays the same for that kind of work.

I'll go for the new kenko 1.4x I think.. And I couldn't care less that it doesnt show in the exif!

I got a chance to sneak off to the river this morning and do a bit more testing for the type of shooting that I love to do; natural landscapes.

A practice shot on a local apartment building, shifted up all the way to get it in the frame...

Wow, impressive shots.....I want one.....So you can use this for the "toy train" effect too right?

I don't find it's the best for miniature effect, perhaps the 24 would be better for that.

right right, "miniature"...That's where I was headed
Thanks, that's great info for me.

Bunyarra...you're right. Even my fully electrically connected Canon TC 1.4 doesn't register in the EXIF data with the TS-E17mm. Strange that, when the EF300 f4 and other lenses do.

To the Ghost of FM...keep laying those great pictures on us...that hand-held shot of the stream is a delight...interesting how the shift lens adds a dimension to the reality of a scene even when there aren't obvious verticals to straighten out. The super sharpness helps too.

Ricardo222 wrote in post #9902540
To the Ghost of FM...keep laying those great pictures on us...that hand-held shot of the stream is a delight...interesting how the shift lens adds a dimension to the reality of a scene even when there aren't obvious verticals to straighten out. The super sharpness helps too.

Thanks very much!

Trees are generally the obvious verticals in landscapes along with horizon lines looking right when the shots are level so even nature photography can benefit from a TS lens and the disciplines behind using one.

I think this lens and me are going to become good friends very quickly! I had been doing a lot of my landscapes with my 14L as I really loved it's ability to behave very much like a tilt/shift lens when held perfectly level but I was finding that many of the subjects I want to capture can be impossible to catch under that discipline and ended up doing a ton of perspective corrections in Photoshop in order to preserve the original geometry I saw with my eyes. I also ended up losing large sections of the original frame in order to get those corrections and it was that issue specifically that drew me to the 17L. I suppose too if I were to drag along my tripod, I could make the actual shooting duties a bit more enjoyable and also be able to do more longer exposures and real HDR shots with the multiple exposures needed from the same spot. I guess I really need to drag along my tripod.

Cheers!