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Aug 06, 2013 17:25 |  #3001

Mu Eugene wrote in post #16185379 (external link)
Quick question re: using hard edge vs soft edge grads on this particular lens.

When stopped down to f/8 and beyond, does the edge begin to get apparent with the hard edge grads? I have more realistic opportunities taking landscapes that have interrupted horizon and cityscapes than a clean line like the ocean sunrise/sunset. In that scenario, would soft edge be more practical?

The lens or aperture has no bearing on how the graduated ND filter effects the image (unless the filter physically cant sit flush on the front of lens because the glass protrudes; not the case with 24mm). Variables like where you place the edge of the filter, the number of stops the filter is rated for and, to your point, what type of edge (soft or hard) the filter has will effect the image. Seascapes and flatter landscapes are good for hard edge. Cityscapes and mountainous areas are good for soft-step ND filters. There is also a reverse soft-step filters made by Singh Ray that are used for shooting sunsets or sunrises and they have a lighter density at the very top of the filter so the sky above the rising/setting sun lightens toward the top of the frame. Graduated NDs are excellent for properly exposing both the foreground and the sky.
I wouldn't leave home to shoot landscape without mine. I use the 4x6 size and just hand-hold them in front of the lens versus fiddling with a filter holder. Mine are all Singh Ray brand.
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Aug 06, 2013 20:19 |  #3002

something a little different with this lens

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Aug 06, 2013 20:33 |  #3003

One from an airplane themed engagement session. No tilt, I think it was shifted.

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Aug 06, 2013 22:23 |  #3004

Nice underwater shots Bespoke. What housing do you use?


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Aug 06, 2013 22:55 |  #3005

Luta13 wrote in post #16186562 (external link)
The lens or aperture has no bearing on how the graduated ND filter effects the image (unless the filter physically cant sit flush on the front of lens because the glass protrudes; not the case with 24mm). Variables like where you place the edge of the filter, the number of stops the filter is rated for and, to your point, what type of edge (soft or hard) the filter has will effect the image. Seascapes and flatter landscapes are good for hard edge. Cityscapes and mountainous areas are good for soft-step ND filters. There is also a reverse soft-step filters made by Singh Ray that are used for shooting sunsets or sunrises and they have a lighter density at the very top of the filter so the sky above the rising/setting sun lightens toward the top of the frame. Graduated NDs are excellent for properly exposing both the foreground and the sky.
I wouldn't leave home to shoot landscape without mine. I use the 4x6 size and just hand-hold them in front of the lens versus fiddling with a filter holder. Mine are all Singh Ray brand.
Hope this helps.

Thank you. I saw the reverse grad as you note at Singh-Ray site too. It could be very practical for across-the-river cityscape where a highway is running along the embankment. Hard .6 filter comes with the Lee filter holder I've just ordered. I'll try it out and see if I feel the need for a soft as well.



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Aug 07, 2013 03:41 |  #3006

Luta13 wrote in post #16187243 (external link)
Nice underwater shots Bespoke. What housing do you use?

thanks. it was a cheapo dicapac. the main seal already has a rip in it =/ i'd love to get a high quality one but i wouldn't put it to enough use to justify the cost.


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Aug 07, 2013 10:11 |  #3007

Mu Eugene wrote in post #16185379 (external link)
Quick question re: using hard edge vs soft edge grads on this particular lens.

When stopped down to f/8 and beyond, does the edge begin to get apparent with the hard edge grads? I have more realistic opportunities taking landscapes that have interrupted horizon and cityscapes than a clean line like the ocean sunrise/sunset. In that scenario, would soft edge be more practical?

I cant remember the last time I took a landscape shot without using a GND filter. I must use the hard edge 90% of the time. Both my hard and soft GNDs are 3 stop Lee filters. Sometimes I double them up too. I also use the Lee 4x4 CPL for all of my shots. Never really had any issues with the apeture and the GNDs but I have made a few mistakes where I have used the hard and then got home only to realise that the hard line can be noticed and I should have used a soft.


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Aug 07, 2013 11:56 |  #3008

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Aug 07, 2013 16:24 |  #3009

Yes. Hard edge is really only for defined horizons.


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Aug 07, 2013 16:46 |  #3010

PS - the above shot was taken using the 4x4 CPL + 3 stop soft GND + 3 stop hard GND. 14 shots in total (7 centre + 7 left shift). SNS-HDR used and pano stitched in photoshop


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Aug 09, 2013 00:55 |  #3011

Great reflections, nice shot!


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Aug 09, 2013 02:13 |  #3012

Thanks Arob, conditions were perfect


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Aug 09, 2013 09:13 |  #3013

Rented this bad boy and the 17mm for the weekend to decide which one to pick... First try just outside the house. Obviously still lots of technique to learn...

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Aug 09, 2013 10:54 as a reply to  @ RedCatPhoto's post |  #3014

Took the new Lee filter setup (0.6 Hard + Polarizer) to the field to test it out.

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Aug 10, 2013 16:36 |  #3015

Great work on this page you guys. I figured I would share a shot from lower antelope since the entire canyon was underwater last week. Here's a video of the madness

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