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Nov 25, 2014 12:54 |  #4381

so this question might well go in the MKI thread too...has anyone using the MKII used the MKI and what are the major differences? I have been looking at MKI's since they are a bit more in my price range...


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Nov 25, 2014 12:57 |  #4382

TRhoads wrote in post #17292515 (external link)
so this question might well go in the MKI thread too...has anyone using the MKII used the MKI and what are the major differences? I have been looking at MKI's since they are a bit more in my price range...

I don't have mk1 at all and i forgot about its specifications, but if i can think about 1 difference then i will say that you can use tilt and shift each independently, so you can rotate each, i think this is not available with mk1, but i could be wrong.


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Nov 25, 2014 13:21 |  #4383

It doesn't look like you can...I also went reading and it seems to be a bit on the soft side...so its out...the sharpness of the MKII is what has me suckered in...I don't want to compromise on that...


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Nov 25, 2014 13:26 |  #4384

This is one from my recently completed project....the Owner also hired a local pro...I liked my images better.

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Nov 25, 2014 13:45 |  #4385

^That nice shot could stand a lot of Photoshop cleanup work. :)

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It doesn't look like you can...I also went reading and it seems to be a bit on the soft side...so its out...the sharpness of the MKII is what has me suckered in...I don't want to compromise on that...

The TS-Es go a little soft when shifted - and that's what makes the version two so so special: it stays sharper when shifted.


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Nov 25, 2014 13:52 |  #4386

yeah, the parking lot and curbs are not very clean...final cleaning had not been done on site yet...a couple signs could stand to be taken out...anything else I am missing....


I have considered the 17mm, but if I want to use it for landscape work, or LE...not sure how to attach filter holders to the end of it. For architecture, it makes a lot of sense...just can't afford both!


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Nov 25, 2014 14:02 |  #4387

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yeah, the parking lot and curbs are not very clean...final cleaning had not been done on site yet...a couple signs could stand to be taken out...anything else I am missing....

That's mainly it. I would also look at the windows and clean up any distracting elements there. Maybe replace the curtain in the upper right window with one of the others for more consistency. But, yes the pavement and curbs really catch the eye in a not so good way.

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I have considered the 17mm, but if I want to use it for landscape work, or LE...not sure how to attach filter holders to the end of it. For architecture, it makes a lot of sense...just can't afford both!

This thing lets you mount your Lee Filter system to the TS-E 17mm: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …apter_ring_for_​canon.html (external link) I bought it, but haven't taken it for a spin yet. :( It does have some limits on how far you can tilt or shift.

But, to be perfectly candid, here's how I really view the two wide-angle TS-Es: TS-E 24 II is my go-to default lens (between the two). It's sharper and better corrected against CA and is a better looking focal length for architecture. I mainly only use my 17mm when I need the extra view angle to capture my subject. I highly highly recommend the TS-E 24 II. It's not my favorite/fun lens (which is the Otus 55mm), but I regard it as my most essential lens.


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Nov 25, 2014 14:06 |  #4388

@ken2000ac: Wow, amazing captures! You have good look for these two great perspectives.




  
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Nov 25, 2014 14:10 |  #4389

@David Arbogast: True, I own the TS-E 24mm II, too. It is amazing lens. But I have only one thing to complain: the bolt for tilt / shift mechanism could be more stable, my one is broken :/ And it's not wheater sealed, so the nature photographer has to take care more than usual like we know from 70-200 II ... Maybe there are a room for some improvements I appreciate to see the next version. But Canon should update first the other TS-E lenses and add something like tele TS-E (150mm or 180mm).




  
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Nov 25, 2014 14:15 |  #4390

David Arbogast wrote in post #17292629 (external link)
That's mainly it. I would also look at the windows and clean up any distracting elements there. Maybe replace the curtain in the upper right window with one of the others for more consistency. But, yes the pavement and curbs really catch the eye in a not so good way.


This thing lets you mount your Lee Filter system to the TS-E 17mm: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …apter_ring_for_​canon.html (external link) I bought it, but haven't taken it for a spin yet. :( It does have some limits on how far you can tilt or shift.

But, to be perfectly candid, here's how I really view the two wide-angle TS-Es: TS-E 24 II is my go-to default lens (between the two). It's sharper and better corrected against CA and is a better looking focal length for architecture. I mainly only use my 17mm when I need the extra view angle to capture my subject. I highly highly recommend the TS-E 24 II. It's not my favorite/fun lens (which is the Otus 55mm), but I regard it as my most essential lens.

Normally I would spend the time to clean things up...but since there has been progress to take care of those issue already in reality...I will just reshoot it one of these days! I am still learning to use the lens.

I think I would prefer the 24 as well, when shifted on FF it gives me plenty of angle to get the scene in that I want to. and it has a filter thread on it, so I just need an adapter ring...which I recently won anyway...so its on the way!

Thanks for the pointers and tips...much appreciated


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Nov 25, 2014 14:17 |  #4391

Apfelbeisser wrote in post #17292644 (external link)
@David Arbogast: True, I own the TS-E 24mm II, too. It is amazing lens. But I have only one thing to complain: the bolt for tilt / shift mechanism could be more stable, my one is broken :/ And it's not wheater sealed, so the nature photographer has to take care more than usual like we know from 70-200 II ... Maybe there are a room for some improvements I appreciate to see the next version. But Canon should update first the other TS-E lenses and add something like tele TS-E (150mm or 180mm).

Those darn knobs are easy to lose too. I lost my shift knob a couple years ago and only got around to replacing it a few months ago. Great point about weather sealing. Generally that ruggedness is regarded as a given for L-lenses, but tilt-shifts will never achieve it - too many moving parts.


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Nov 25, 2014 14:34 |  #4392

I was gonna say, how the heck do you weather seal a lens that moves in all different directions!


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Nov 25, 2014 15:17 |  #4393

about weather sealing, i have rain/dust covers for a reason, so i will never make this issue in a lens as an issue always, in fact even with my 1 series bodies even they are so weather sealed i keep protecting them by covers, so it is always good to be safe than sorry, and those covers are there for that purpose.

About the knobs, i agree, but good i didn't lose any yet because i didn't use the lenses much yet, but if i travel i will try hard to keep my eyes on those knobs just in case.


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Nov 26, 2014 06:32 |  #4394

Both of these shot with the 2x III extender for 48mm:

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Nov 26, 2014 06:45 as a reply to  @ ken2000ac's post |  #4395

^ken2000ac: wow, great. I like it! Super sharp even with extender!




  
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