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Jan 07, 2010 18:17 as a reply to  @ post 9345376 |  #76

Just got it last night, and snowed pretty heavy today, so haven't done much but try and learn how to use it. Did get up on the roof after dusk, and tried a shift panorama, just to see how wide it gets with out moving the camera.

Our backyard with just a bit cropped off the top and bottom, full left + right shift, stitched in CS4.
Second image is the uncropped, unedited version, so you can see the amount of vignette and full coverage.

WB was the most unusual I've experienced, 11,000, -19, in Lightroom for what you see below. If I used the eyedropper on the snow, LR set WB to 20,000, -22. Crazy or what? The lens? No filter, it was dark, ISO 100, f/8, 2.5 seconds.


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Jan 08, 2010 17:34 |  #77

JC4 wrote in post #9347115 (external link)
Just got it last night, and snowed pretty heavy today, so haven't done much but try and learn how to use it. Did get up on the roof after dusk, and tried a shift panorama, just to see how wide it gets with out moving the camera.

Our backyard with just a bit cropped off the top and bottom, full left + right shift, stitched in CS4.
Second image is the uncropped, unedited version, so you can see the amount of vignette and full coverage.

WB was the most unusual I've experienced, 11,000, -19, in Lightroom for what you see below. If I used the eyedropper on the snow, LR set WB to 20,000, -22. Crazy or what? The lens? No filter, it was dark, ISO 100, f/8, 2.5 seconds.

Thanks John, until you posted this I didn't even know that shift could be used for pano without moving the camera...though I guess that should have been obvious... this lens just get's better and better. I gave this a try yesterday in the city. This is effectively uncropped and is near to (but not quite) maximum shift.

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Jan 08, 2010 18:16 |  #78

Don't forget, that by turning the camera to portrait mode and then use the shift to take 3 horizontal images +12, O, -12 and stitch them together in Photoshop is similar you end up with what in effect would be a sensor size of about 35mm x 50mm which would have a resolution of about 40MP.


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Jan 08, 2010 19:57 as a reply to  @ EdBray's post |  #79

Nice, glad I was of help, while learning this lens myself.

Tried Canon's 2x TC II this evening. It works, just like I read somewhere it would. Non-reporting, which doesn't make sense, but it doesn't. So, the camera displays non TC'd apertures, as does the EXIF.

Below is a simple battery shot with the 2.x TC, full 8.5 degree tilt. 2/3 stops down, so f/9. The grain in my desk lets you see how shallow DOF is at the close batter. In fact the face of the first battery is a bit soft.

I also walked around downtown a bit today(no TC). Way too cold to fiddle with the little knobs, so didn't get many snaps. Pretty much failed at handheld tilt shots, because I just couldn't keep my hands outside long enough to get things focused properly. Did get a few shifted shots in, like the one below. Nothing special, just a doorway, but its my first T/S lens, so gotta play with the basics. :)


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Jan 08, 2010 22:51 |  #80

Been trying out the selective focus minituarising effect...bit cliche, but fun :-)

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Jan 08, 2010 23:04 |  #81

robonrome wrote in post #9356152 (external link)
Been trying out the selective focus minituarising effect...bit cliche, but fun :-)

Nice to see some shots of Brisbane!
Rob, I'm interested in this or the 17mm. I'm curious about your pano of the city a few posts back. Was this done handheld or on a tripod/monopod?
I want to take shots like your pano but don't necessarily lug a tripod around if I can avoid it. In other words, can these sorts of shots [Shifted] be done successfully without a support? Thanks.
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Jan 08, 2010 23:13 |  #82

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Nice to see some shots of Brisbane!
Rob, I'm interested in this or the 17mm. I'm curious about your pano of the city a few posts back. Was this done handheld or on a tripod/monopod?
I want to take shots like your pano but don't necessarily lug a tripod around if I can avoid it. In other words, can these sorts of shots [Shifted] be done successfully without a support? Thanks.
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Thanks:D, That pano was done using a gorillapod attaching the camera to a railing above the river - I like you don't want to lug tripods around town and the gorillapod is a great little compromise. I expect you could do the shift pano stuff hand held just haven't tried it.


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Jan 09, 2010 08:40 as a reply to  @ robonrome's post |  #83

Nice miniature attempts. I've yet to give that a go. I'm guessing a bit more elevation would improve the effect.

Sure can tell we're on opposite hemispheres. All that green grass vs our total white-out. :)


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Jan 09, 2010 10:33 |  #84

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I have had this lens for a few weeks now but have not had the opportunity to use it to it's best. All this will hopefully change now that I have a 1DsMk3 which will allow its full AOV to be utilised.

I took these images as a wind-up as they were all taken at with the same camera settings but with the use of the tilt function as swing. 1/10 sec @ f3.5 exif intact

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This is amazing to me. Any suggestions on how to focus/tilt to acquire this DOF or is it simply trial and error?


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Jan 09, 2010 10:47 |  #85

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This is amazing to me. Any suggestions on how to focus/tilt to acquire this DOF or is it simply trial and error?

I tend to use live view as it is similar to the use of camera movements on a view camera. There are charts around on the internet that give you mathmatical figures but the best way is to actually see what is happening at the time.


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Jan 09, 2010 11:47 |  #86

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I tend to use live view as it is similar to the use of camera movements on a view camera. There are charts around on the internet that give you mathmatical figures but the best way is to actually see what is happening at the time.

Do you focus on front or back first and then iteratively adjust with tilt and focus ring? Or something different? Or no system at all?


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Jan 09, 2010 13:09 |  #87

I try to imagine where the 3 planes (sensor/film plane, focus plane & lens front plane) will align and use that to start and then using live view adjust it until it is how I want!

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Jan 09, 2010 15:57 |  #88

JC4 wrote in post #9357718 (external link)
Nice miniature attempts. I've yet to give that a go. I'm guessing a bit more elevation would improve the effect.

Sure can tell we're on opposite hemispheres. All that green grass vs our total white-out. :)

Definitely some more elevation would help and I've got a couple of locations in mind to try out where the crowds of people will be a little crowdier;)


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Jan 10, 2010 12:24 |  #89

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Jan 10, 2010 16:47 |  #90

EdBray wrote in post #9365013 (external link)
Canon 1Ds MkIII, 24L TS-E MkII, 1/60 sec, f4, ISO 100.

Sainsbury's Roof, Marsh Mills, Plymouth, UK..

Nice one ED, I'd like to see this with a big saturation boost...it adds to the "toy" effect.

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