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Jan 23, 2010 23:36 as a reply to  @ post 9449543 |  #121

a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...


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Jan 24, 2010 00:24 |  #122

snowboarder wrote in post #9457948 (external link)
a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...

I think there've been some nice pictures up here. I of course do not have a T&S lens, and If i were able to get one, i doubt i'd be able to do it justice since i've never held one before.

Since you don't think anyone is doing a good job, why don't YOU post some images here and show us?


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Jan 24, 2010 05:09 |  #123

snowboarder wrote in post #9457948 (external link)
a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...

The fact you think everyone here s*cks is fine, that's personal, but
I don't think anyone or anything could please you in this thread because of your love for your zeiss 21mm.

Based on your earlier reactions in other threads that seems obvious to me ;)


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Jan 24, 2010 06:46 as a reply to  @ J-B's post |  #124

Didn't want to sound like that, as a potential owner of one of the new
ts-e lenses, which have a reputation of being outstanding, I was hoping for some
outstanding examples of what it can do, not just shots of batteries or other tests...


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Jan 24, 2010 07:16 |  #125

I understand your opinion, test shots are not the most fun to look at.
I think those shots are more to show people what ts-e lenses can be used for, because sadly many seem to think these lenses are only for doing 'miniature' shots.

Take a look here, a lot of fine examples of what this lens can do:
http://www.flickr.com/​groups/1030703@N20/ (external link)


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Jan 24, 2010 07:55 |  #126

snowboarder wrote in post #9457948 (external link)
a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...

Sorry to disappoint. Haven't seen the sun since I got the lens, or been out of town to shoot anything exotic, so just playing with it and learning some of its features. Very few pics in the thread overall, so posting what I have. I've seen your posts, and I don't have the skills/talent to match your work, but is there something I could target that would help you evaluate the lens?

edit: From what I've seen so far, if I owned the z 21mm I wouldn't bother, unless I wanted the T/S features. 3mm can easily be cropped and 2/3 stop slower is a big deal in the VF.


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Jan 24, 2010 08:26 |  #127

JC4 wrote in post #9459360 (external link)
is there something I could target that would help you evaluate the lens?

edit: From what I've seen so far, if I owned the z 21mm I wouldn't bother, unless I wanted the T/S features. 3mm can easily be cropped and 2/3 stop slower is a big deal in the VF.


Sorry John, I apologize. I just want to see some great photos, that's all :)
Look, thanks a lot for your offer, I would love to see some examples
of achieving a great depth of field, impossible without this lens.
Specifically I would love to see some pictures with a front object being very close
to the camera and the background very sharp.
Something people usually use f22 for. Without a big success. But try to push it,
please put something really close to the lens and if you could, show a crop
of the background to demonstrate how sharp it really is.
Thanks!
I do consider the 17mm version more than the 24mm, but I love using filters.
A lost case I guess...


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Jan 24, 2010 08:49 |  #128

TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II
shot at f/2.8
1st is no tilt, 2nd is with tilt.


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Jan 24, 2010 08:51 |  #129

I can show that. I'm sorry that I'm using my sucky examples I posted earlier in this thread but the weather has been too bad to go out lately.

IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/4241535162_a8c4aea134_o.jpg

100% crop foreground near edge:

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IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
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100% crop far background near edge:

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
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And this is only at f5.6, handheld.

This shot could not be done without a tilt shift lens:

IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4241542992_8ca4e00e72_o.jpg

The tree is very close to the lens. Plane of focus goes into the forest.
This is only F4.

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Jan 24, 2010 08:55 |  #130

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That last shot is really nice


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Jan 24, 2010 09:02 |  #131

Another example with crops:

IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/4240768205_0b4623962b_o.jpg

edge foreground 100%:

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IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


Extreme background 100%:

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


Only at f7.1

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Jan 24, 2010 09:59 |  #132

Ah, J-B, lovely, lovely images and I really appreciate the cropped demonstration. I have this lens and while I need it most for exactly the kinds of images that look like tests, I'm hoping to be doing some wildflower fields this Spring. I will admit that I cannot relate to the excitement about the "miniature look" ... those generally just look like bad photographs to me ... but these others are stunners.

I will be taking a workshop with Jennifer Wu in the middle of March at Light Photographic Workshops in Los Osos, California, on Macro & Wildflower Field Photography, http://www.lightworksh​ops.com …Photography_Wor​kshop.html (external link), and Jennifer has promised to work with me on how to use this lens.

Again, thanks!


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Jan 24, 2010 12:00 |  #133

J-B wrote in post #9459563 (external link)
This shot could not be done without a tilt shift lens:

QUOTED IMAGE

The tree is very close to the lens. Plane of focus goes into the forest.
This is only F4.

Great, thanks. Could you do something exactly like that, but with every tree
everywhere in the frame sharp and the front tree still closer to the lens?

The other examples just show the fg/bg but your front objects
are not close to the lens, they are on the ground.

An ideal example is a low angle landscape shot with a flower basically
sitting on the lens. Everything sharp in the frame staying, let's say at f8

Even though the lens is created for this kind of benefits, can't find
any good examples anywhere.


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Jan 24, 2010 16:19 |  #134

-Could you do something exactly like that, but with every tree
everywhere in the frame sharp and the front tree still closer to the lens-
in the above shot, the"plane of sharp focus is running from the left side of the FG tree through the 3 trees behind it that are in focus. It is a vertical plane. The depth of field is going to be on both side of the "plane of sharp focues" starting very narrow close to the camera and increasing as you go further out. DOF will be pie shape. Stopping down may allow the trees to the left to be more in focus. the 24mm at f8 with 6 degrees of tilt will have about 11 degrees of total angular DOF.


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Jan 24, 2010 16:25 |  #135

great shot!! since the version 1 of this lens thread is dead I just wanted to say great shot!!!


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