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Jun 02, 2009 06:43 |  #1

Mayday !

Here's my line-up :
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All of this zooms are f4 and for low light (80% of my use) it's not enough. f2.8 zooms would be an improvement but I need faster aperture. My 50mm @ f2.8 is too slow. That's why I love my 50mm because I can shoot anything with that aperture and FL.

Moreover, I love bokeh and I don't think I really need a zoom. So I'm regarding L primes : 35L, 50L, 85L, 135L...

I've just sold my 85f1.8, not long enough for portrait and not so much bang for the buck IMO. f1.8 "seems" too slow and I'm looking for short DOF.

My kind of shooting : portrait, landscape, sport, airshows, familly....

So, what would you do with a +/- 1000$ budget ? I'm regarding a x1.4 converter for help to airshows. Is it so efficient ?


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Jun 02, 2009 07:00 |  #2

135L

Or sell the 24-105 and go for a 24-70 2.8


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Jun 02, 2009 07:04 |  #3

Frankly, if the 85 1.8 wasn't enough "bang for the buck" for you, I'm not sure you are going to be pleased with anything. The 85L is certainly better for some purposes, but I'm not convinced it's $1,500 better!


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Jun 02, 2009 07:07 |  #4

I also agree with Scott...the 85 1.8 is probably the best portrait and low light mid-telephoto for the money.


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Jun 02, 2009 07:11 |  #5

85 f1.8 convinced me on APS-C but not on FF. It was not really sharp on both. I appreciated it's FL but I would prefer faster aperture. Will 135L be enough ?

Due to x1.4 TC, I could sell 70-200f4 and use 135L+TC.


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Jun 02, 2009 07:16 |  #6

i use my 85L on my 5d for most of my photos. I keep the 135 and do more with that when I need the longer range. having that 1.2 for low light is great...


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Jun 02, 2009 07:24 |  #7

The 135 is actually slower than the 85. BUT, if you liked the FOV of the 85 on your APS-C, then you'll love the 135L on a FF. My crop "go-to" combo is my 30/85, so if I ever went Full-frame, I'd probably pick up the 50L/135L.

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85 f1.8 convinced me on APS-C but not on FF. It was not really sharp on both. I appreciated it's FL but I would prefer faster aperture. Will 135L be enough ?




  
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Jun 02, 2009 07:43 |  #8

Really ?? First time i heard this :eek:

egordon99 wrote in post #8034198 (external link)
The 135 is actually slower than the 85.


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Jun 02, 2009 07:53 |  #9

Not sure if you're being serious, but f/2 is slower than f/1.8. If you're being serious, well, not sure how to respond to that......

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Really ?? First time i heard this :eek:




  
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Jun 02, 2009 08:47 |  #10

egordon99 wrote in post #8034304 (external link)
Not sure if you're being serious, but f/2 is slower than f/1.8. If you're being serious, well, not sure how to respond to that......

Okay, now my head hurts!?!?:confused:

Oh my, I misread! My head doesn't hurt anymore. Of course the 135 is slower than the 85!


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Jun 02, 2009 08:48 |  #11

f/1.2 is faster than f/1.8
f/1.8 is faster than f/2
f/2.8 is faster than f/5.6....

Why would your head hurt? This is Photography 101.... :lol:

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Okay, now my head hurts!?!?:confused:




  
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Jun 02, 2009 08:53 |  #12

egordon99 wrote in post #8034549 (external link)
f/1.2 is faster than f/1.8
f/1.8 is faster than f/2
f/2.8 is faster than f/5.6....

Why would your head hurt? This is Photography 101.... :lol:

But 135 is a larger number than 85, doesn't that make it faster? :D

I know the 135 is slower - for some reason, my brain stopped working for a minute as I read your post and typed my reply!  :p


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Jun 02, 2009 10:30 |  #13

Well... 135 and 85 are focal lengths, and has nothing to do with how fast they are :)


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Jun 02, 2009 13:20 |  #14

Ok aperture is faster.

But 135's AF is said to be faster than 85's AF.


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Jun 02, 2009 13:38 |  #15

Perhaps, but the 85/1.8 still has REALLY REALLY FAST autofocus.

Autofocus speed should be the least of your worries when debating between the 135 and the 85.

cherrymoon wrote in post #8036121 (external link)
Ok aperture is faster.

But 135's AF is said to be faster than 85's AF.




  
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