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Jun 02, 2009 15:49 |  #1

My friend asked me to take some pics of her 4 month old. He cannot sit up yet. She has a boppy pillow that I was going to use as a support for his upper body. My questions is... I have just recently been trying studio lighting. I am wondering where to position my main light for a subject that is laying down. He will be turned slightly to me. Here is an example. I have a 580ex2 a 430ex2 (i have been using as background light), two reflectors, and softliter II.

In the first one I had the light low and at a 45 degree angle (as soon as I took the pic I saw the issue). I think I moved the light more center and over top on the second one.


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Jun 03, 2009 15:35 |  #2

This is a problem I have recently been asked to tackle myself. Not having kids myself and not being used to photographing ones that can't sit up yet etc... I started looking around for ideas.

The shot blow was taken with a single light at 90 degrees to camera right, in a Westcott 28" softbox, I was using a Sunpak 120j at about half power (can't quite remember) so your 580 is more than capable of doing that. I also had a silver reflector just off camera left providing a bit of fill to the baby's chin.

I found this quite easy to shoot to be honest, I've had to darken the backgound in Photoshop but the parents seem quite happy with the results. I know it doesn't really answer your question but maybe it will give you a different angle to try?

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Jun 03, 2009 15:43 |  #3

You can shoot from side

AB400 in a strip box

IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/v4/p195162817-3.jpg

or above with them lying flat on their back, like this

AB800 in a medium SB
IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/v4/p194571229-4.jpg
IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/v5/p609333346-4.jpg

or make them lie on their belly. You can use boppy pillow to prop up the head.

AB800 in 5' octodome
IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/v4/p515128400-3.jpg

550ex with extra small SB
IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/v2/p643400886-3.jpg

Look at this photog, really amazing shots.

http://capturedbycarri​e.com …art-may-newborn-workshop/ (external link)

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Jun 03, 2009 16:29 |  #4

leahmt47 wrote in post #8037115 (external link)
My friend asked me to take some pics of her 4 month old. He cannot sit up yet. She has a boppy pillow that I was going to use as a support for his upper body. My questions is... I have just recently been trying studio lighting. I am wondering where to position my main light for a subject that is laying down. He will be turned slightly to me. Here is an example. I have a 580ex2 a 430ex2 (i have been using as background light), two reflectors, and softliter II.

In the first one I had the light low and at a 45 degree angle (as soon as I took the pic I saw the issue). I think I moved the light more center and over top on the second one.

I was in a similar situation a month or so back. A neighbor asked if I'd take some photos of her 5-month old. Definitely not my comfort zone nor something I would normally do. Anyway, I found a shoe-mount flash (Sunpak 120J in my case) mounted on a 46" Softlighter produced a very soft, flattering and *very* forgiving light. Positioning was generally camera right and elevated with the Soflighter shaft pointing more or less at the infant. The only additional "help" the Softlighter needed on occasion was provided by a 48" white collapsible reflector which filled the shadow side nicely.

This is one of the outtakes but it does illustrate the type of light the Softlighter and opposing white reflector will give you:

IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3593565840_5e22568b5d_o.jpg

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Jun 03, 2009 22:12 |  #5

CrisUK wrote in post #8043670 (external link)
This is a problem I have recently been asked to tackle myself. Not having kids myself and not being used to photographing ones that can't sit up yet etc... I started looking around for ideas.

The shot blow was taken with a single light at 90 degrees to camera right, in a Westcott 28" softbox, I was using a Sunpak 120j at about half power (can't quite remember) so your 580 is more than capable of doing that. I also had a silver reflector just off camera left providing a bit of fill to the baby's chin.

I found this quite easy to shoot to be honest, I've had to darken the backgound in Photoshop but the parents seem quite happy with the results. I know it doesn't really answer your question but maybe it will give you a different angle to try?

Cheers

Cris.

I actually love this effect. I never knew how to acheive it though. I am not great with photoshop but I am learning. What method do you use for darkening the background?


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Jun 03, 2009 22:15 |  #6

bobbyz wrote in post #8043700 (external link)
or above with them lying flat on their back, like this

AB800 in a medium SB
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Look at this photog, really amazing shots.

http://capturedbycarri​e.com …art-may-newborn-workshop/ (external link)

I like these overhead shots. Are you just standing above infant? What focal length are you using?


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Jun 03, 2009 22:17 |  #7

tetrode wrote in post #8043988 (external link)
I was in a similar situation a month or so back. A neighbor asked if I'd take some photos of her 5-month old. Definitely not my comfort zone nor something I would normally do. Anyway, I found a shoe-mount flash (Sunpak 120J in my case) mounted on a 46" Softlighter produced a very soft, flattering and *very* forgiving light. Positioning was generally camera right and elevated with the Soflighter shaft pointing more or less at the infant. The only additional "help" the Softlighter needed on occasion was provided by a 48" white collapsible reflector which filled the shadow side nicely.

This is one of the outtakes but it does illustrate the type of light the Softlighter and opposing white reflector will give you:

QUOTED IMAGE

Dave F.

Thank you for the detailed description. Are the catch lights from the reflector?


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Jun 04, 2009 02:02 |  #8

leahmt47 wrote in post #8045786 (external link)
I actually love this effect. I never knew how to acheive it though. I am not great with photoshop but I am learning. What method do you use for darkening the background?

It's shot against a Lastolite black background, so that helps to start. I then just use a selection and the curves tool to take the background down. I bet there are loads of other ways of doing this but this one works for me.

There are lots of other similar setups you can try here too, but unfortunately the parents have asked me not to put them up on the internet so I can't show you. Have a play around, you may find a 4 months old is a little big already for this exact shot, but it is worth it. My client ordered one blown up on a 40"x30" canvas and it does look mighty impressive :)

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Jun 04, 2009 02:42 as a reply to  @ CrisUK's post |  #9

Here is another example similar to Cris'. I used a black cloth at background, have both parents holding the sleeping baby, and used available window light. Darkened the background in Photoshop same way as Cris.

IMAGE: http://kaitcilla.smugmug.com/photos/84737762_EdTom-L.jpg

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Jun 04, 2009 02:43 as a reply to  @ Amorous's post |  #10

Another one of my favorites. I also used available window light with very similar set up. Parent(s) wearing black adds some dramatic affect to the shot.

IMAGE: http://kaitcilla.smugmug.com/photos/113424143_87xyz-L.jpg

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Jun 04, 2009 07:32 |  #11

I actually have a few newborns to shoot so I will definately try this out. Thanks so much for the examples.


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Jun 04, 2009 08:51 |  #12

leahmt47 wrote in post #8045813 (external link)
I like these overhead shots. Are you just standing above infant? What focal length are you using?

Yes. I am on the stairs in my home. I think I used 28-75mm f2.8. Exif is present in the shots.


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Jun 04, 2009 12:40 |  #13

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Yes. I am on the stairs in my home. I think I used 28-75mm f2.8. Exif is present in the shots.

I wasn't sure how to access exif info. I saved and opened DPP and clicked info but all it gave me is that you were shooting at f 8.0 in Av mode.

So you just put the baby on a blanket on the ground below you and look over a banister or something?


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Jun 04, 2009 20:00 |  #14

leahmt47 wrote in post #8049161 (external link)
I wasn't sure how to access exif info. I saved and opened DPP and clicked info but all it gave me is that you were shooting at f 8.0 in Av mode.

So you just put the baby on a blanket on the ground below you and look over a banister or something?

I use program ViewExif wich is integrated with IE. You just right click and select show exif.

Anyways, first shot was at f3.5, 54mm using my old 10d. The 2nd one was with 1dmk2 f8, 64mm.

I put him on a crib mattress with white mattress pad and shot from above. I think my wife was holding the SB from above.


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Jun 06, 2009 23:05 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #15

Here's a recent 3 month old, one AB up front, reflector on the other side and a light blowing out the BG. Baby on boppy and spend a lot of time making strange noises to get them to look up!

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