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Jun 03, 2009 10:59 |  #1

Hi All,

I went to my local Cathedral yesterday afternoon and took a few snaps. I spent a while doing some alterations, and making the snaps look fairly nice. On my laptop monitor (which is an Acer, CrystalBrite) the exposures looked just right... but when I look at them on my work computers, or on other screens they always look way too dark.

Any ideas?

Here is an example (external link)of what I mean (just click 'Cathedral' and look at the three images).

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Jun 03, 2009 11:48 |  #2

Amnesia180 wrote in post #8041971 (external link)
Hi All,

I went to my local Cathedral yesterday afternoon and took a few snaps. I spent a while doing some alterations, and making the snaps look fairly nice. On my laptop monitor (which is an Acer, CrystalBrite) the exposures looked just right... but when I look at them on my work computers, or on other screens they always look way too dark.

Any ideas?

Here is an example (external link)of what I mean (just click 'Cathedral' and look at the three images).

Thanks!

is the monitor at your work good? mine sucks and all my pic looks kinda darker on it too.


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Jun 03, 2009 11:50 |  #3

Is your workflow color managed? At a minimum, you need a hardware calibrated display and paper/printer/profiles to match.


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Jun 03, 2009 12:36 |  #4

Log onto DPReview.com and look at any dSLR test...at the bottom of the first page of each test is a grayscale step which you should use to adjust your monitor so that the most steps are distinguishable across the widest range of tones. Poor man's monitor calibration, but it works well enough to establish brightness and contrast adjustment of your monitors.


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Jun 03, 2009 14:14 |  #5

Matter of taste I suppose, but I think the catherdral is too dark: The lower corners go black.
Calibrate your screen. Most monitors are way too bright out of the box.

It should be at about 120Cd/m^2.


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Jun 03, 2009 15:57 |  #6

René Damkot wrote in post #8043159 (external link)
It should be at about 120Cd/m^2.

I would replace "about" with "no higher than" ...


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Jun 03, 2009 16:09 |  #7

René Damkot wrote in post #8043159 (external link)
Matter of taste I suppose, but I think the catherdral is too dark: The lower corners go black.
Calibrate your screen. Most monitors are way too bright out of the box.

Probably because the manufacturers figure a lot more monitors are used for gaming than for precise photo editing.


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Jun 03, 2009 16:46 |  #8

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Probably because the manufacturers figure a lot more monitors are used for gaming than for precise photo editing.

And over at some other forums which will remain nameless, they seem to have the smug attitude that the only monitors usable for photo editing are the high end Eizos and NECs. I'm happy just to crank my Dells and Samsungs down to zero brightness.


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Jun 03, 2009 16:52 |  #9

I hear ya, Chas!


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Jun 03, 2009 16:57 |  #10

ChasP505 wrote in post #8044065 (external link)
And over at some other forums which will remain nameless, they seem to have the smug attitude that the only monitors usable for photo editing are the high end Eizos and NECs. I'm happy just to crank my Dells and Samsungs down to zero(zed) brightness.

I love my crappy Samsung TN display calibrated with the Spyder2. The prints always come out better than my display. :)


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Jun 03, 2009 17:49 |  #11

At work I have a fancy NEC, at home I have a cheapo monitor. Photos look the same on both because I have them adjusted suitably. I'd rather that my employer subsidize the fancy stuff, because in the end it did not matter.


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