Working on better Jewelry Shots

Mike, LM does give the best in depth and always helpful crits.I have read all of them. I love his point by point analysis.

In2Photos wrote in post #8055438
I know everyone has hashed out their differences, but I just want to mention something that can help everyone.

Tony, I am not trying to specifically call you out, but I am using this piece of your post for reference.

...(other than it being a horrible piece of jewelry)...

As this is a photography forum and we are in the Critique Corner I have to ask what this has to do with the picture? How is it constructive in any way to helping the OP take better photographs? Critique here is about making the photographer better.

Quite so. I touched on the import of awareness of subject ascetics above - I could elaborate at length but don't think anyone would benefit. I understand where you're coming from and agree with the thrust of this.

In2Photos wrote in post #8055438
Recently the mod team has been made aware of an absolutely wonderful critique. I don't know how many of you may have seen it, but you can view it here: https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=7903095#p​ost7903095

As you can see it is very detailed, very honest, but also very tactful. While we realize that not all critiques will be this thorough, we would like everyone to make sure to remain tactful.

Understood. Still, time precludes being so extremely sensitive continuously if contributing many critiques. LM's made 205 posts over three and a half years. I've made almost 1500 in less than two, predominantly critiques. I try to put everything I have to say into one post, and not post unless I've got something new to say, what might be a better way of explaining something that seems needed, or the weight of opinion on some subject is relevant and I want to chip in on one side or other.

If you want - feel free to pick any 20 posts of mine at random and tell me if you think they're so insensitive and/or uninformative that on balance it'd be better if I changed that balance or simply didn't post. No worries here.

I'm not meaning that in a combative way... just saying basically that these things happen sometimes to most of the regular reviewers, and it doesn't mean we don't understand the compromises, aren't continually reevaluating our successes and failures, and doing our best by the POTN community....

I've recently been thinking it may be useful to have a sticky thread discussing some of the expectations on both sides - posters and critics - to help keep things working smoothly. The recent "Post here for a harsh critique" thread was another example of things breaking down.

Will let you know if I find time to draft anything as a starting point, or perhaps someone else would like to have a crack at it. If it might help, I'm all for it.

Cheers, Tony

Tony, I learn from most all of your posts.I thank you for that You take more time than many to explain.

tonydee wrote in post #8055654
Quite so. I touched on the import of awareness of subject ascetics above - I could elaborate at length but don't think anyone would benefit. I understand where you're coming from and agree with the thrust of this.

Is beauty not in the eye of the beholder? While you may not like the aesthetics of the subject, there are those that do. In the context of this discussion, the aesthetics have little to do with the technical aspects of which the OP was trying to achieve. If this were a jewelry forum and someone asked "Does this ring look good?" then it is pertinent to state your reasons for or against its beauty.

Some post more than others, that is for certain. But a number does not equate to how much impact one may have. Take me for instance. With over 15,000 posts you think I would have wrote something important somewhere on this Forum. I agree that your method of not beating a dead horse (my words not yours) is a good one. Although, if someone has pointed out some flaws in an image adding a post on the lines of "I agree" might not seem like it accomplishes anything. On one hand it doesn't, but it might help convince someone that more than one person sees the flaw. I personally would rather see a more elaborate response to one of my photos, than "I agree". But if the post that is being agreed upon is already elaborate then it just amplifies that post a little more. I am not saying run around and post "I agree" by the way.

Like I said before I wasn't trying to single you out. I know the critique section is full of several members that call this "home" here on the Forum. So my post was aimed at that "general population". I don't think I need to check your posts, as we would have been made fully aware if you were typically commenting in the incorrect manner.

That is what we like to hear and see!

I think we have a volunteer for a possibly great sticky! Let me know if you get the chance to do it. I am sure the mod team would love to see what you can come up with.