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Jun 08, 2009 21:52 |  #16

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Ok - new discovery. When I click the SAVE FOR WEB AND DEVICES it gives me a preview of the file. It is RED RED RED - yet the file I am editing looks perfect.... It's like when it saves it, it adds a ton of red to it. Does that help? Is there a setting that is doing that when I save the file????

As I mentioned earlier, your images look the same on my monitor inside and outside of Photoshop (with and without color management). I'm wondering about your calibration. Have you tried re-calibrating from factor default settings?


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Jun 08, 2009 22:08 |  #17

And I have my color space set for Abobe RGB, not sRGB.... Still don't think it is supposed to work like this....


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Jun 08, 2009 22:12 |  #18

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As I mentioned earlier, your images look the same on my monitor inside and outside of Photoshop (with and without color management). I'm wondering about your calibration. Have you tried re-calibrating from factor default settings?

Thanks for being patient. I have not tried resetting my monitor to default factory settings. It doesn't give color temps but crap like GAME, INTERNET, WEB, etc. No idea what those settings are. It's a Samsung Syncmaster 2693HM. Guess I can try that tomorrow..... Still I have images to edit NOW and I'll just test them out in other apps to see what they look like before I upload them.


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Jun 09, 2009 12:24 |  #19

James33 wrote in post #8074780 (external link)
Think I have it figured out... When I save as a JPG, it had under the save options in the window, a box for color that read ICC Profile: sRGB that was checked.

That doesn't fit with this:

James33 wrote in post #8074877 (external link)
And I have my color space set for Adobe RGB, not sRGB.... Still don't think it is supposed to work like this....


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It also had the same option in SAVE FOR WEB AND DEVICES. When I deselected this box, what was on the screen matched my output in everything. Maybe it was applying the ICC Profile twice or something???? Anyway, does anyone see anything really wacko by unchecking this box?

What are your "Save for web" previews set to? (See https://photography-on-the.net …0&highlight=Mon​itor+color)

On your screenshots: The one where you have set North America Web / internet set:
The image you have open (_MG_2672.CR2) has *no embedded profile*. So in effect it'll have sRGB *assigned* (since you didn't tick the "missing profiles" dialog box.)
(This will probably lead to an image that doesn't look red enough on your monitor)

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 403 | MIME changed to 'application/xml'



Also, the screenshots have your spider created profile embedded. Why? Windows doesn't do this, so either you did it manually or PS did it.
(You probably edited the images while having PS set to use the monitor profile as working space, and you embedded the profile while saving)

If I assign sRGB to the "saturated" screenshot, the image looks like the other screenshot (less saturated reds). Looks like your screen is quite red uncalibrated.

So the issue looks to be one of your display profile compares to sRGB. In other words: a color managed vs. non color managed issue. Sure that the other applications are color managed? (Internet Explorer is *not*)

Edit: Don't use ACDsee, but it appears you have to manually enable color management, and by using google, I found what appears to be a bug as well:
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Jun 09, 2009 16:39 |  #20

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Thanks for being patient. I have not tried resetting my monitor to default factory settings.


I wasn't suggesting that you restore default settings. I was referring to re-calibrating starting from factory default settings.

I'm totally confused now about your color settings. You showed settings with sRGB as the default working space and then later said you're using aRGB. I think the root of the problem is that you've got your color settings all hosed up.


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Jun 09, 2009 17:48 |  #21

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I wasn't suggesting that you restore default settings. I was referring to re-calibrating starting from factory default settings.

I'm totally confused now about your color settings. You showed settings with sRGB as the default working space and then later said you're using aRGB. I think the root of the problem is that you've got your color settings all hosed up.

Sorry for confusing you - I have been switching from Adobe RGB back to sRGB to see which worked the best. I have no idea if the default settings are even close to what I should be using on my Monitor - they are usually over bright and saturated. Would the calibration fix all of that regardless of how it was set?


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Jun 09, 2009 18:58 |  #22

James33 wrote in post #8079867 (external link)
Sorry for confusing you - I have been switching from Adobe RGB back to sRGB to see which worked the best. I have no idea if the default settings are even close to what I should be using on my Monitor - they are usually over bright and saturated. Would the calibration fix all of that regardless of how it was set?

No, after you calibrate, you still have to get your color settings right ("right" depending on the particular kind of editing you do).


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