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Jun 11, 2009 12:30 |  #16

If your going full frame go all the way unless you can afford to keep both setups!!
the 10-22 doesn't gain you anything with the crop factor considered it would be like a 16-35mm on the 5D2.

Sell the crop stuff and buy glass for the 5D2.


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Jun 11, 2009 15:13 |  #17
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The 5D2+17-40L will eat the 50D and 10-22 alive and spit it out. No contest.


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Jun 11, 2009 15:18 |  #18

The 10-22 is a better lens on the crop than the 17-40 is on a FF, imo. The 10-22 has much better borders and far less distortion, virtually none.

In the center 2/3rds, the 10-22 is clearly better on a FF, 15mm+, than the 17-40, imo.


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Jun 11, 2009 15:26 |  #19

bohdank wrote in post #8091917 (external link)
The 10-22 is a better lens on the crop than the 17-40 is on a FF, imo. The 10-22 has much better borders and far less distortion, virtually none.

In the center 2/3rds, the 10-22 is clearly better on a FF, 15mm+, than the 17-40, imo.

Thats good to hear..I always thought the FF + 17-40L combo would blow the 10-22 + crop cam out in a head to head comparison.


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Jun 11, 2009 15:32 |  #20

Rarely does a decent lens "blow away" another decent lens.
I went from a 70-200 f2.8 IS + 300L f4 IS to the 200L f2 IS and it didn't blow me away sharpness-wise that is...

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Thats good to hear..I always thought the FF + 17-40L combo would blow the 10-22 + crop cam out in a head to head comparison.




  
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Jun 11, 2009 15:38 |  #21

The problem with the 10-22 on a FF is the other/outer 1/3rd :-)

It goes from bad to really bad but, depending what you are shooting, it may not matter at all. Also a fair amount of distortion. But 15mm is quite awesome on a FF.

I have only a few shots of the same subject taken with the 10-22 and the 17-40 on a FF, so the comparison is not that complete. I was wowed when I saw the first 10-22 shots. I'm not easily impressed but nothing has ever impressed me as much as those images in terms of sharpness and contrast. It's a subject I have shot hundreds of shots of, a building accross the street so it was easy to compare when I got the 17-40, after I sold the 10-22.

The 10-22 on a crop lacks the same color and contrast as it does on a 5D, so I attribute the difference to the camera and not the lens. I haven't used the 17-40 on my 40D yet, so with all else being equal, I can't comment on that comparison, although it would have to be at 17mm.


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Jun 12, 2009 02:01 |  #22

Thanks for all the wonderful responses. Looks like the 10-22 will be up for sale in the near future.

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Jun 12, 2009 02:16 |  #23

As good as the 10-22 is, it's just not worth keeping when you've got a 5D2 and 17-40. Good choice to sell it, I would have done the same.




  
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Jun 12, 2009 15:15 |  #24

i have the 5D II and 17-40
both are absolutely stunning


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Jun 12, 2009 15:38 |  #25
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Honestly Bohdank, the 10-22/Crop vs 17-40/FF theres hardly any comparison. The Full frame+17-40 wins every time. Somebody did a direct comparison not to long ago and the Full Frame Advantage wins. You cannot compare the two except for field of view. When I had my 17-40, i had none of these "issues" which you speak of.

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Jun 12, 2009 15:38 |  #26
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You were right. it does.

DL.Photography wrote in post #8091967 (external link)
Thats good to hear..I always thought the FF + 17-40L combo would blow the 10-22 + crop cam out in a head to head comparison.


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Jun 12, 2009 15:42 |  #27
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5d2 + 17-40


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Jun 12, 2009 15:53 |  #28
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I love UWA and BELIEVE ME if I had a crop camera, I'd get nothing other than the 10-22. I know it is THAT good. But on the other hand, crop comes nowhere near full frame. It's a fact!


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Jun 12, 2009 19:35 as a reply to  @ Synenergy52's post |  #29

bohdank wrote in post #8091917 (external link)
The 10-22 is a better lens on the crop than the 17-40 is on a FF, imo. The 10-22 has much better borders and far less distortion, virtually none.

In the center 2/3rds, the 10-22 is clearly better on a FF, 15mm+, than the 17-40, imo.

Synenergy52 wrote in post #8098697 (external link)
Honestly Bohdank, the 10-22/Crop vs 17-40/FF theres hardly any comparison. The Full frame+17-40 wins every time. Somebody did a direct comparison not to long ago and the Full Frame Advantage wins. You cannot compare the two except for field of view. When I had my 17-40, i had none of these "issues" which you speak of.

5D+17-40 FTW

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5d2 + 17-40

A picture is worth a thousand words. This is just a quick edit of shot that I took with the 5DII and 17-40L at a spot outside Sedona. The close rock in the foreground was about a foot or so away from the lens, aperture was f/22. Unfortunately, the shot's not usable due to the two waterspots that sprayed onto the lens, but this should give you a good idea with regard to the 17-40L on the 5DII...very sharp from front to back of the image, and the near foreground corner is also very sharp. This is a killer combo, in my opinion.

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Jun 12, 2009 20:48 |  #30

5d/17-40 without a doubt.

My dad has a 50D and I love it, but It's tough to beat full frame + L.


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