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Jun 13, 2009 02:34 as a reply to  @ post 8101307 |  #16

24-70 of course...(if i were u).


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Jun 13, 2009 03:58 |  #17

Def' the 24-70....




  
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Jun 13, 2009 05:27 |  #18

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I have a 50mm f/1.8 II on my 40D now. Thats all I got. I wanted to upgrade to either the 24-105mm or the 24-70mm. I do mostly portrait shots only. Will having the 50mm prime make the 24-70mm f/2.8 useless over the 24-105mm IS?

For protrait, definitely 24-70L. IMO, F4 lenses (up to 200mm, no experience with longer) on crop body don't give nearly enough DOF control. For normal range, F2.8 barely cut for protrait. 24-105L on crop body is at most a above average lens, especially for protrait use.


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Jun 13, 2009 05:34 |  #19

I don't do portraits in studio with the 24-70 as most. I like primes, but if you have to have one of these, I chose the 24-70 for the f2.8, in dim light. It's s huge lens, but the light comes in perfect for what I need it for.


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Jun 13, 2009 08:57 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #20
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Do yo plan to go FF in some foreseeable future ? If so get 24-105 if not 24-70.
A cliche advise is to get the 17-55 but that is unusable for portraits.


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Jun 13, 2009 09:36 |  #21

I'm doing a graduation with my 24-105 today hope it don't fail me.



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Jun 13, 2009 09:46 |  #22

vadim_c wrote in post #8102237 (external link)
A cliche advise is to get the 17-55 but that is unusable for portraits.

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Jun 13, 2009 09:47 |  #23

kjclockplay wrote in post #8097552 (external link)
Will having the 50mm prime make the 24-70mm f/2.8 useless over the 24-105mm IS?

Only at 50mm, but then again... at 50mm it makes the 24-105mm IS useless.

Look at the similar threads near the bottom of the page. Seems like your question has been asked at least a few times.


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Jun 13, 2009 09:56 |  #24

vadim_c wrote in post #8102237 (external link)
A cliche advise is to get the 17-55 but that is unusable for portraits.

Sorry but
Why do you say this?
A 17-55 behaves as a 27-88, pretty much work as a 24-70 on a full frame
I've used the 17-55 many times for different portraits
The 17-55 might not be right for Your style , but I wouldn't use the word "Unusable"

To the OP I would look into the 24-70 for portraits use, but I've seen many wedding photog with 24-105 with marvelous results.
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Jun 13, 2009 11:27 |  #25

borism wrote in post #8102401 (external link)
Sorry but
Why do you say this?
A 17-55 behaves as a 27-88, pretty much work as a 24-70 on a full frame
I've used the 17-55 many times for different portraits
The 17-55 might not be right for Your style , but I wouldn't use the word "Unusable"

To the OP I would look into the 24-70 for portraits use, but I've seen many wedding photog with 24-105 with marvelous results.
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Jun 13, 2009 11:48 |  #26

I love the 24-105 and if you said general photography including holidays etc i would recommend it in a heartbeat.

Portraits on the other hand - 24-70 all the way. Especially on a 40d. The increased DOF your fighting (for same framing) puts you shooting at 2.8 alot to get the background to melt away. Wanna make sure you have a good copy wide open- mine on the 40d isnt too good - on the 5d2 and 1d3 it looks 10x better -

I think im at the point whereby if it wasnt for IS video and being my #1 travel lens - id be selling my 24-105. I always reach for the 24-70 for people and faces shots.


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Jun 13, 2009 12:17 |  #27

For portraits I'd imagine a gearbag filled with primes would work well due to the luxury of having a tad more time to compose.

I think if a zoom is required the 24-70L is a nice bokeh machine. Stopping down a lens regardless of 24-105L or brick would give excellent results.

The brick is a nice lens but I think theres more people justifying the cost of the lens rather than the true performance. I too have a love/hate relationship with the lens. The USM, colours, build and all those L characteristics is what draws me to this lens. I'll use the brick for those times I want quick versatility when things happen quickly. If you look at many/majority owners of Micro AF adjust alot of them tweek to achieve favourable results. My brick is supposedly well within specs yet I need +3 micro AF adjust (still tweeking) on my 50D for pixel pleasing sharpness at f/2.8. My 5D seems to be more forgiving and is decently sharp wideopen but NOTHING to rave about. I see many examples of sharp wideopen photos with the brick but typically they are couple feet away. I can replicate photos like that but my other zooms are equally as good as the brick.

Higher percentage of my favourite photos are with my primes. I do admit the FF makes the 24-70L into a different lens compared to the crop. Much more creamy bokeh is achieved with a FF.


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Jun 13, 2009 16:51 |  #28

borism wrote in post #8102401 (external link)
Sorry but
Why do you say this?
A 17-55 behaves as a 27-88, pretty much work as a 24-70 on a full frame
I've used the 17-55 many times for different portraits
The 17-55 might not be right for Your style , but I wouldn't use the word "Unusable"

To the OP I would look into the 24-70 for portraits use, but I've seen many wedding photog with 24-105 with marvelous results.
Cheers

Totally agree with this.

For full frame cameras, 24-70 for portrait work, 24 - 105 for situations where you won't need the wider aperture of the 24-70, just to get the addl length.




  
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Jun 14, 2009 17:06 |  #29

I shot this one with 24-105. Exelent bokeh, donĀ“t you think?

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Jun 14, 2009 17:39 |  #30

AlanU wrote in post #8102934 (external link)
For portraits I'd imagine a gearbag filled with primes would work well due to the luxury of having a tad more time to compose.

I think if a zoom is required the 24-70L is a nice bokeh machine. Stopping down a lens regardless of 24-105L or brick would give excellent results.

The brick is a nice lens but I think theres more people justifying the cost of the lens rather than the true performance. I too have a love/hate relationship with the lens. The USM, colours, build and all those L characteristics is what draws me to this lens. I'll use the brick for those times I want quick versatility when things happen quickly. If you look at many/majority owners of Micro AF adjust alot of them tweek to achieve favourable results. My brick is supposedly well within specs yet I need +3 micro AF adjust (still tweeking) on my 50D for pixel pleasing sharpness at f/2.8. My 5D seems to be more forgiving and is decently sharp wideopen but NOTHING to rave about. I see many examples of sharp wideopen photos with the brick but typically they are couple feet away. I can replicate photos like that but my other zooms are equally as good as the brick.

Higher percentage of my favourite photos are with my primes. I do admit the FF makes the 24-70L into a different lens compared to the crop. Much more creamy bokeh is achieved with a FF.

This is a pretty damn spot on review of the characteristics of the brick from my experience too.... not forgiving AT ALL on 40d especially at 2.8 - always looked soft. Looks alot nicer on FF. Same goes for my 100-400. So ive either got unusually soft L glass - which works ok with me moving away from xxd bodies and both my cams have microadjust.

24-70 (+2 on 1d3 and +3 i think on 5d2)
100-400 (+7-11 on 5d2 @400 and cant seem to suss it out with the 1d3 yet - sometimes dead on - sometimes about a bit of backfocus.. )

If your on the move i would go a zoom... on location and what not..

even in a studio -your often stopped down so much it can negate the need for a prime - depending on how you shoot of course.


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