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Canon 24-105mm or 24-70mm for portrait

 
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Jun 14, 2009 17:46 |  #31

Neither. Get a good prime or three. Only zoom (of mine) that I might use would be the Zeiss 35-70.


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Jun 14, 2009 17:50 |  #32

primes for portraits is what i do, but if i had to choose between the zooms, i'd choose the 24-70. the bokeh is amazing.


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Jun 15, 2009 10:44 |  #33

Sfordphoto wrote in post #8109420 (external link)
primes for portraits is what i do, but if i had to choose between the zooms, i'd choose the 24-70. the bokeh is amazing.

What prime is your favorit for portrait/studio?


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Jun 15, 2009 16:30 |  #34

The 24-105 gets alot of @#%& and its certainly not my first choice for portraits, but its not that bad....

24-105, 88mm, f/4....(if anything this is too sharp for a portrait ;))....

IMAGE: http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/455855186_yRKRc-L.jpg


Another f/4 shot that I took the other day, this one at 105mm - this would be fine for a portrait...
IMAGE: http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/562855738_DTJQX-L.jpg

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versedmb wrote in post #8115264 (external link)
The 24-105 gets alot of @#%& and its certainly not my first choice for portraits, but its not that bad....

24-105, 88mm, f/4....(if anything this is too sharp for a portrait ;))....
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Why do you mention sharpness in portrait question ? For example absence of that funny circles coming out of the lady's head would be much more important :-)


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Jun 15, 2009 17:08 |  #36

chefausi wrote in post #8113246 (external link)
What prime is your favorit for portrait/studio?

You have a 5D, the one you want is the 85L.




  
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Jun 15, 2009 21:30 |  #37

Geno DM wrote in post #8115449 (external link)
You have a 5D, the one you want is the 85L.

That sounds like great advice, but...
1) That lens cost a good deal more than the 2 he's mentioned.
2) You have a picture of Fabio, which negates any advice you give.:D


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Jun 16, 2009 01:36 |  #38

tmonatr wrote in post #8116751 (external link)
That sounds like great advice, but...
1) That lens cost a good deal more than the 2 he's mentioned.
2) You have a picture of Fabio, which negates any advice you give.:D

I didn't think I was replying to the OP, I thought I was giving advice to a thread jacker. :lol:

As for the Fabio thing, it really makes no difference as I'm always full of bad advice. :p




  
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Jun 16, 2009 07:26 |  #39

vadim_c wrote in post #8115291 (external link)
...For example absence of that funny circles coming out of the lady's head would be much more important :-)

That's highlight bokeh and even my 100 f/2 would show this. The circular bokeh is nice and round and very decent for an f/4 lens of this focal length IMO.

Even the 135L would show circular highlight bokeh....
http://www.wlcastleman​.com …5_100_135/bokeh​/index.htm (external link)


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Jun 16, 2009 08:01 |  #40

That's why it's important to look at the entire frame when composing. What's behind/infront of the subject can make or break a shot. You don't want things sticking out of the top or sides of people's heads... so move the subject or move the camera.

I don't know how many outdoor portraits I've been disappointed with because a necklace or some other small thing was just in the wrong place or was just wrong. In the rush, sometimes of getting a great expression, it's easy to forget or overlook.


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Jun 16, 2009 08:35 |  #41

OP:

Read this...

http://www.shutterbug.​net …/portraiture/08​06prostwo/ (external link)

After reading it, you can now settle for 24-105 for its versatility and IS which does help a lot for low-light *with* flash shots.

http://www.planetneil.​com …h-photography-techniques/ (external link)


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Jun 17, 2009 17:52 |  #42
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versedmb wrote in post #8118681 (external link)
That's highlight bokeh and even my 100 f/2 would show this. The circular bokeh is nice and round and very decent for an f/4 lens of this focal length IMO.

Even the 135L would show circular highlight bokeh....
http://www.wlcastleman​.com …5_100_135/bokeh​/index.htm (external link)

Can you tell a customer "Even 100/2 has it" ? :-)
I am not sure about 100/2 but with both my 24-70 and 70-200/2.8 the highlights do not have that very defined edge, which puts them out of the point of attention.
On contrary 50/1.4 which is supposed to be have better bokeh because it is 'prime' and 'becasue it has a wider apperture' but in reality the bokeh on 50/1.4 can be beat in its ugliness only by reflector lenses.

The bottom line: sharpness i far not the most important feaure in a portrait lens.


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